From owner-svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 26 10:48:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF786106567A; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:48:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from 172-17-150-251.globalsuite.net (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C4E20139D; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:48:31 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4F212F7F.3050301@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 02:48:31 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://SupersetSolutions.com/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20120119 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andriy Gapon References: <201201251836.q0PIa1sl037892@svn.freebsd.org> <4F205673.30907@FreeBSD.org> <4F206B8B.30207@FreeBSD.org> <4F2075AF.2030900@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4F2075AF.2030900@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 OpenPGP: id=1A1ABC84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r230545 - head/sys/boot/forth X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:48:45 -0000 On 01/25/2012 13:35, Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 25/01/2012 22:52 Doug Barton said the following: >> On 01/25/2012 11:22, Andriy Gapon wrote: >>> I have this crazy idea that we should remove the 'Safe Boot' and "ACPI' options >>> from the default boot menu (on platforms where they are present). >> >> IMO better labels on the menu would be a better option here. The ACPI >> option in particular is important for some users who have broken ACPI. > > Well, from my experience, nowadays it's a 99% chance that a PC simply won't work > at all without ACPI. However broken it might be. > Not sure if better labels can be of any help with that :-) I'm not sure that removing an option that some of our users still need is a good idea. But I'm not in charge of anything. :) >>> Besides, 'Safe Boot' seems to be already somewhat undermined by rc.d/kld. >> >> If there is a way to signal that down to userspace I'm happy to modify >> the behavior of the script. > > Maybe this gets propagated via kenv. Sorry I wasn't clear. If you (or someone else) can show me how to definitively determine, at the time that rc.d/kld is run, whether the user chose the "Safe Boot" option I'm happy to change the behavior of the script accordingly. > In this case changing a label to something like "Enable loading of configured > kernel modules" could be an improvement. Not sure what you meant there, sorry. Doug -- It's always a long day; 86400 doesn't fit into a short. Breadth of IT experience, and depth of knowledge in the DNS. Yours for the right price. :) http://SupersetSolutions.com/