From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 10 22:52:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8684E106568B for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:52:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sektie@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f208.google.com (mail-ew0-f208.google.com [209.85.219.208]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA93C8FC20 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:52:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy4 with SMTP id 4so601010ewy.36 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:52:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=JoV2yd/KEVs1ZCvlanix5ONNS6ompq0h/KExKEH9qq8=; b=xCVsQ+1jWTNtXV8wa5gaJ+3nR+jC7s2ml9DULEoL7jOS2T8EUKplDIqQqAEsFzeEAG 0hXj15jSgSWzsC2zJ79PqcMfttBZXctAG7WfI8u7jC13tV8ewupOyb2a7MqJB0GeA9B0 oHuDJyMfDT2PB2fdLUQsBZqDY7CAfw/cwKLF8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=J9kn9JZUC8MkHlmLRgTQtiM3L5m8eIysWhYWFMbi6eNPKwoTxS/VDgrlcnKQbUCMs/ Xtae7qUG4dpYfaY4fJsvHEZvMQa3H7ibbc6SvCghCv3qEKpfjEdS3P5eKWVWPmwYluex Omyr2NOwTex61UknOfgQsimKUV76/SGK4WlBM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: sektie@gmail.com Received: by 10.210.7.24 with SMTP id 24mr2353645ebg.48.1252623136799; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:52:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <200909091631.01446.hselasky@c2i.net> <200909100911.10237.hselasky@c2i.net> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:52:16 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 61e86b9c7da43f53 Message-ID: From: Randi Harper To: James Butler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD CURRENT Mailing List , Hans Petter Selasky Subject: Re: Fwd: Can't boot 8.0-BETA4 from USB stick X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:52:18 -0000 On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 3:22 PM, James Butler wrote: > 2009/9/11 Randi Harper : > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 2:48 PM, James Butler < > sweetnavelorange@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> 2009/9/10 Hans Petter Selasky : > >> > On Thursday 10 September 2009 06:37:13 James Butler wrote: > >> >> Is there anything else worth trying? > >> > > >> > Another brand of memory sticks? > >> > >> I have only the three different brands that I tried (Toshiba and two > >> different no-names). Is there really nothing like an adjustable delay > >> at boot? Perhaps it's time to spend NZD$30 on a CF card and IDE > >> adapter, but that will be of limited use for troubleshooting or > >> installation. > >> > >> -James > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > I've been asking around about an option to delay before mounting root as > > well. I don't know of anything off the top of my head, but it sounds to > me > > like a bug (or at least a reasonable feature request). Send a PR? > > I probably will now, I just wanted to exhaust the existing options. It > seems to me that a "wait for the configured root device to appear" > timeout could be arbitrarily long (eg. 10+ secs) by default without > adversely affecting the normal use case, but I don't claim to know how > the boot process works. > > > Have you only tried this on the one computer? It seems suspicious that > all > > the cards are having this problem when I've only heard of two cases of > USB > > flash-slowness causing problems so far. I'm curious to see if you have > the > > same problem using that flash disk with a different computer. > > I think I used the same drive to test-install 8.0-BETA1 on my old > Thinkpad X31, which seemed to work OK. This Asus motherboard is a but > useless in other ways; still, 7.2 runs fine. > > -James > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > To avoid adversely affecting the normal use case, a tunable could specify the option of having the mount wait until the device appears, or possibly for how long to delay the mount. This really isn't my area of expertise, though, so take what I say with a grain of salt. Not sure if you've seen these, but this is a problem other people are reporting as well: Relevant but not enlightening: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2009-May/007457.html Slightly more helpful: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2009-August/010562.html Not all that relevant, but interesting anyways: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2009-July/009912.html -- randi