From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 9 12:24:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84C916A444 for ; Tue, 9 May 2006 12:24:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.grant@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com (nz-out-0102.google.com [64.233.162.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C7543D5F for ; Tue, 9 May 2006 12:24:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michael.grant@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i11so1400974nzi for ; Tue, 09 May 2006 05:24:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=j0O5EjCbCrF7ErqCvUU3mm6ENoosys+U7FRwFMtiuWfsp6rJeFWWVajq164YcGnILfTTqIpMnKod406BLggABiYLVrZL64/E2ih7qYm11BpRDsrJdc1IoblugpGcEebkWgGzzVPZWpNvwYvO355IbEahATARxu/CKnQXf+Cn/l0= Received: by 10.36.247.32 with SMTP id u32mr5195522nzh; Tue, 09 May 2006 05:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.37.18.34 with HTTP; Tue, 9 May 2006 05:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <62b856460605090524m11ed2afxda3ee0841f7db62f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 14:24:29 +0200 From: "Michael Grant" Sender: michael.grant@gmail.com To: Subhro In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <62b856460605090453o24f7de34ka71fffa392bfdedb@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 95160ffc4076abde Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: jails or chroot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 12:24:43 -0000 I'll try to be more explicit on my requirements. I'm not worried about mail. I'm mostly worried about web. Each client has a web site with one or more domains. I currently offer them apache+php+mysql+mod_perl+mod_ssl. One of them needs java server pages, tomcat I think. Everyone gets access to their own logs and to geolizer (webalizer). Some clients would like shell access. Most clients write their web site using ftp. Certain ones need also the MS Front Page Extensions. Some clients want an ftp upload area. Ssl poses a special problem in that I need to allocate an ip address for those who have their own ssl certificate. It's pretty much all standard stuff. But yes, I totally agree with you, it is an administration nightmare to set up separate jails and keep track of which has which version of what and so on. There must be an easier way to do this. Some of you folks who run hosting sites, how do you manage large numbers of clients? Michael Grant On 5/9/06, Subhro wrote: > On 5/9/06, Michael Grant wrote: > > I host a bunch of websites on my box. Recently I had some problems > > with file access problems with php which caused me to look into > > putting each of my clients into their own jail or chroot. I have > > roughly 100 different domains I'd need to split. > > I won't be doing this even if someone pays me twice for doing it. This > is going to create a HELL lot of problems later on, especially during > upgrades. > > BTW can you tell us your exact requirements? > > Thanks and Best Regards > Subhro > > -- > Subhro Kar > Security Engineer > iViZ Techno Solutions Pvt. Ltd. > eRevMax House, 1st Floor > Plot XI-16, Sector V > Salt Lake City > 700091 > India > >