From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 7 8:37:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pebkac.owp.csus.edu (pebkac.owp.csus.edu [130.86.232.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8180C14BE0 for ; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 08:37:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Received: from owp.csus.edu (mail.owp.csus.edu [130.86.232.247]) by pebkac.owp.csus.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA71511; Tue, 7 Dec 1999 08:37:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Message-ID: <384D37B1.910B372@owp.csus.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 16:37:05 +0000 From: Joseph Scott X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wonko@entropy.tmok.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: let's get something straight. References: <199912070508.AAA92241@entropy.tmok.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brian Hechinger wrote: > > i'm not some unix newbie. i've been doing sysadmin work for 10 years. > i asked a legitimate question and i don't think that being told to go look > it up was an appropriate response. i asked here for a reason. > > REASON: I want documentation about real-world differences. benchmarks, > direct comparisons (i ran FreeBSD and Linux side by side and this is > what happened, whatever) go search the web for FreeBSD vs. Linux. > 75% of it is religion, and the other 25% is "it's better because > i say so." but no proof. no documentation. > > i need to be able to argue this case in front of a very clueful administration. > these guys aren't just some suits who like pretty pie charts. these guys > are software engineers. they know how this stuff works. they just don't > know anything about FreeBSD and i don't think, "we should run freebsd cause > it's cool." from me will change their minds. > > maybe i should have prefaced it with something to that effect, but i didn't > and i apologize for that. however, i don't feel that getting jumped on was an > apropriate resonse. > > i won't hold this against anybody, i'm not mad at anybody, i'm just upset that > this is the attitude here. don't alienate possible users of FreeBSD, they > are only helping the cause. > I didn't really pay much attention to this the first time around, but here's some of the reasons why I run FreeBSD instead of (name your distro here)Linux : -At one point in time I worked for and ISP that run SunOS 4.1.3. That was based on BSD so going from that to FreeBSD felt very comfortable. -When I was first looking at using PC systems to run things like DNS and other services that needed to be up 24 x 7 my Linux installs didn't seem to fair to well compared to my FreeBSD installs. Keep in mind this was more than 3 years ago, things have changed I'm sure ( ie: I hope that Linux is more stable than it was back then ). -Centralized development. Not everyone things of this as plus, but I sure like it. Having web access to the cvs tree has helped on more than once track down what's going one between upgrades. -My feelings that an OS is kernel+userland. Again this is something that many people may not agree with me on, but I like knowing that the FreeBSD kernel is being developed in conjunction with one userland ( not many ). -The ports collection. What can I say, I love that thing :-) -Strives to have a logical and consitant layout. To be honest I've never done benchmarks or any serious testing between Linux and FreeBSD. Over three years ago when I had to decide between the two FreeBSD did a better job, since then I've never had a reason to give up on FreeBSD. I'm not sure if this exactly what you are looking for, hopefully it will help. -- Joseph Scott joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu Office Of Water Programs - CSU Sacramento To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message