From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 25 21:52:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EED16CF43 for ; Thu, 25 May 2006 21:49:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivier@gautherot.net) Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (smtp6-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F38F43D53 for ; Thu, 25 May 2006 21:49:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from olivier@gautherot.net) Received: from imp2-g19.free.fr (imp2-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.2]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531E322568; Thu, 25 May 2006 23:49:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: by imp2-g19.free.fr (Postfix, from userid 33) id 1908E6226; Thu, 25 May 2006 23:49:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 200.54.71.227 ([200.54.71.227]) by imp2-g19.free.fr (IMP) with HTTP for ; Thu, 25 May 2006 23:49:16 +0200 Message-ID: <1148593756.4476265c059f1@imp2-g19.free.fr> Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 23:49:16 +0200 From: Olivier Gautherot To: Poul-Henning Kamp References: <5583.1148593117@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <5583.1148593117@critter.freebsd.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.5 X-Originating-IP: 200.54.71.227 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 25 May 2006 22:22:01 +0000 Cc: Paul Allen , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's embedded agenda X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 21:53:09 -0000 Poul-Henning, I got your point. I'll put together a summary of today's discussions and a couple of ideas I have to define a list of requirements and give a direction to the design. I've worked on a (simplistic) Flash file system in the past and will include this experience too. I'll copy you on tyhe doc to raise a red flag in case I head in a bad direction ;-) Cheers Olivier > > Paul, you clearly understand the constraints of Flash, but it also > seems to me that you have never given any thought to how a filesystem > could benefit from knowing these and in doing so, help how to > mitigate the issues. > > I wish I could be more specific to guide you and others onto the > right track here, but for now I will have to reiterate: Tailor > the filesystem to flash devices, there are so many benefits to > be had that way. > > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 > phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 > FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe > Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. > -- Olivier Gautherot olivier@gautherot.net Tel: +56 8 730 9361