From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 18 14:35:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80DA51065693 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:35:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 000.fbsd@quip.cz) Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (elsa.codelab.cz [94.124.105.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387A88FC19 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:35:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.codelab.cz [127.0.0.1]) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 738B819E027; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:35:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (r5bb235.net.upc.cz [86.49.61.235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 44F1119E023; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:35:00 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B040613.4030705@quip.cz> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:34:59 +0100 From: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olivier Smedts References: <200911172043.28008.gnemmi@gmail.com> <20091118000838.60CBC1CC47@ptavv.es.net> <19e9a5dc0911171905r67f4e9c4q8513782cce8f5f82@mail.gmail.com> <367b2c980911180330x32407537qa6468d230936cb85@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <367b2c980911180330x32407537qa6468d230936cb85@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Gonzalo Nemmi Subject: Re: WITHOUT_TELNET=yes .. does it work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:35:06 -0000 Olivier Smedts wrote: > 2009/11/18 Gonzalo Nemmi: >> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote: >> >>>> From: Gonzalo Nemmi >>>> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:43:27 -0200 >>>> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org >>>> >>>> On Tuesday 17 November 2009 8:30:41 pm Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >>>>> Check out the scripts in src/tools/tools/build_option_survey/ >>>>> >>>>> The result looked like this on stable-7 some time ago: >>>>> >>>>> http://phk.freebsd.dk/misc/stable7_build_options/ >>>> >>>> >>>> no effect .. >>>> Interesting ... >>>> Thanks for the link Mr. Poul-Henning Kamp >>> >>> I can state that several of the src.conf options in 8.0 don't work and >>> some will break the build. There is an open PR that has a fix to >>> Makefile.inc1 for at least some of the problems. >>> >>> That said, building a new world without telnet does not delete the >>> existing binaries, libs, header files, etc. It just causes them not to >>> be built again. Further, delete-old will not delete them. > > But someone (you, me...) can file a PR to add them to OLD_FILES when > WITHOUT_TELNET is set to yes, like it's done for some other WITHOUT_ > options. It could be *dangerous* to automatically delete files based on WITHOUT_ settings in src.conf. If somebody set WITHOUT_OPENSSH and have it built and replaced by ssh from ports with OPENSSH_OVERWRITE_BASE, then your proposed magic will delete this ssh as well. So the machine ends without any ssh even if there should be ssh from ports! Miroslav Lachman