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[209.85.167.182]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j140sm571527oib.46.2020.02.20.21.21.03 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 20 Feb 2020 21:21:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-oi1-f182.google.com with SMTP id a142so456271oii.7 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 21:21:03 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:aca:d5d3:: with SMTP id m202mr538169oig.161.1582262463263; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 21:21:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200217231452.717FA1E820@freefall.freebsd.org> <20200220154101.GA53326@ghostyhead.chthonixia.net> <20200221010421.GA54290@ghostyhead.chthonixia.net> In-Reply-To: <20200221010421.GA54290@ghostyhead.chthonixia.net> From: Tomasz CEDRO Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 06:20:50 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD 12.0 end-of-life To: "Joe A." Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48P0DL6D9wz4M1Z X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=cedro.info header.s=google header.b=iA+47Dkg; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomek@cedro.info has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::230) smtp.mailfrom=tomek@cedro.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.61 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cedro.info:s=google]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cedro.info]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cedro.info:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[0.3.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-2.31)[ip: (-7.93), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-1.89), asn: 15169(-1.67), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 05:21:08 -0000 On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:04 AM Joe A. wrote: > I was aiming at the 'decent, modern' aspect; and a working desktop. So, > probably no to your questions. That said, I run the things I need; from sigil > to darktable to inkscape, etcetera. > > WRT to the Radeon: no, the CPU is actually an APU: 2200G with Radeon Vega Graphic > and no, I've never gotten it to run. But that's no barrier; I can use the Nvidia. I was also big fan of nVidia for about 20 years.. until I wanted to use it for OpenCL on BSD and found out they dont give a sh$^ about supporting Open-Source (see famous Linus middle finger scene, also note that nvidia drivers are binary blobs) so I switched to AMD RADEON :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info