From owner-freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Mon Apr 30 04:46:59 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9B0FC2E4E for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2018 04:46:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@redbarn.org) Received: from family.redbarn.org (family.redbarn.org [IPv6:2001:559:8000:cd::5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4D8379950 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2018 04:46:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@redbarn.org) Received: from [10.199.5.28] (unknown [50.235.236.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by family.redbarn.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 11BCB8928A for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2018 04:46:49 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5AE69FB7.1010706@redbarn.org> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 06:46:47 +0200 From: Paul Vixie User-Agent: Postbox 5.0.25 (Windows/20180328) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-virtualization Subject: vtfs? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 04:46:59 -0000 i use nfs for this but i don't like it. we have vtnet and vtbd. where is vtfs? as in, a vm-independent (virtualbox, vmware, bhyve, kvm, xen, etc) standard that would let sysadmins export file systems through something that might look to the guest a lot like vfs, but would be implemented in the host a lot like nullfs (so, more like jails in this way.) i realize that apple and microsoft clients would have hell to pay with semantic incompatibilities like case-sensitive file names. but i still want it, because i want mmap for high performance read-write multi-vm applications, and nfs prohibits this. vixie