From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Mar 20 11:57: 7 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E2937B401 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 11:57:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from meitner.wh.uni-dortmund.de (meitner.wh.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.129.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA3543FAF for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 11:57:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: from lofi.dyndns.org (pc2-105.intern.meitner [10.3.12.105]) by meitner.wh.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F003167588; Thu, 20 Mar 2003 19:55:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from kiste.my.domain (kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h2KJuxue020053 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:57:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) From: Michael Nottebrock To: Jens Rehsack Subject: Re: No xvideo support for ATI Rage Pro? Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:56:56 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org References: <3E797D1F.8070807@ant.uni-bremen.de> <200303201423.27103.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> <3E7A070F.8030405@liwing.de> In-Reply-To: <3E7A070F.8030405@liwing.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Boundary-02=_L0he+dHXjfSFQ21"; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200303202056.59572.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --Boundary-02=_L0he+dHXjfSFQ21 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: signed data Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 20 March 2003 19:23, Jens Rehsack wrote: > Michael Nottebrock wrote: > > On Thursday 20 March 2003 13:47, Jens Rehsack wrote: > >>Kris Kennaway wrote: > >>>Isn't the Rago Pro a different card than the Rage 128 Pro? > >> > >>Sometimes, sometimes not ... > > > > Definitely different, and not just sometimes. :) The RagePro chipset is > > much older than the Rage 128 Pro. > > Sorry, the site at ati.com is gone where the several chips are > described, but in past sometimes I had to identify the cards by chip and > a number on it. There are some Rage PRO and Rage 128 Pro which were the > same and there were differences between several Rage PRO's and Rage 128 > PRO's and Rage 3D PRO's. ATi's chip naming conventions are confusing. For example, the non-marketing= =20 name for the chipsets on several 'Rage 128' and 'Rage 128 Pro' products is= =20 "3D Rage Pro 128" (duh), and there are over 40(!) different revisions of th= e=20 3D Rage Pro 128. Most of them have some two-letter suffix (3D Rage Pro 128= =20 PA, 3D Rage Pro 128 PP, 3D Rage Pro 128 SG, 3D Rage Pro 128 RL, etc). So, to clarify, when I said "Rage Pro", I was referring to all non-3D Rage = Pro=20 128-but-still-fifth-generation-except-mobile-chipsets, i.e. oldish chips li= ke=20 the RageIIc, 3D Rage Pro PCI/AGP and 3D Rage Pro Turbo, which have been use= d=20 in products like the "3D Charger" and the "XPERT@WORK"/"XPERT@PLAY" cards, = or=20 the old cores in new housings like the RageXL chip used on the "XPERT XL"=20 cards or the OEM chip in the Dell Poweredge 6300 (have I clarified anything= =20 now? I'm not sure...) which require extra driver work to access the=20 hardware-scaler and overlay facilities. So I guess, it's really kinda hard for anybody who's not been juggling with= =20 ATi chips for the last few years to keep track. I'm not sure I managed=20 either... :) =2D-=20 Regards, Michael Nottebrock --Boundary-02=_L0he+dHXjfSFQ21 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQA+eh0LXhc68WspdLARApZqAJ9zwGpl4r3BP/pi9qyiX6x0DDqyYACghvTT ZOr23ASGRV/mDv4jJGvbf4k= =5Y1l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Boundary-02=_L0he+dHXjfSFQ21-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message