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Date:      Thu, 27 Dec 2001 01:50:07 -0800
From:      "Robert L Sowders" <rsowders@usgs.gov>
To:        Tom <tom@uniserve.com>
Cc:        Allen Landsidel <all@biosys.net>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "Peter/Los Angeles, CA" <peter@haloflightleader.net>, Sam Drinkard <sam@wa4phy.net>, sthaug@nethelp.no
Subject:   Re: 4.5 PRERELEASE - Call for testing
Message-ID:  <OFF4C3CAA7.05B581DF-ON88256B2F.0035EF73@wr.usgs.gov>

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Not true, nada.  I've proved this over and over again.  Let's agree to 
disagree and just move on.





Tom <tom@uniserve.com>
Sent by: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
12/26/2001 04:22 PM

 
        To:     "Peter/Los Angeles, CA" <peter@haloflightleader.net>
        cc:     Sam Drinkard <sam@wa4phy.net>, Allen Landsidel <all@biosys.net>, 
sthaug@nethelp.no, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
        Subject:        Re: 4.5 PRERELEASE - Call for testing


On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Peter/Los Angeles, CA wrote:

> Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it kind of strange that
> auto-sensing/auto-negotiating must be enabled on both sides for the 
feature
> to work a bit strange?

  It isn't strange at all.  During auto-negotation both ends exchange a
list of capabilities that they support, and they decide what capabilities
to enable.  If you disable auto-negotiate at one end, the end still doing
auto-negotiating will default to half-duplex.  The speed is only thing
that can automaticatically detected.

...
> On the other hand, I have network cards on my computer which I can set 
to
> full/half/auto/10/100, whatever combination I like, and yet, the switch 
will
> continue to work.

  Not the duplex settings.  If you disable auto-negotiating on your NIC,
by forcing it to full-duplex, your auto-negotiating switch won't know what
you support and default to half-duplex.  If the duplex is mistmatched,
everything seems to work, but there will be a 1 to 7% packet loss.


Tom


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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Not true, nada. &nbsp;I've proved this over and over again. &nbsp;Let's agree to disagree and just move on.</font>
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<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b>Tom &lt;tom@uniserve.com&gt;</b></font>
<br><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Sent by: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG</font>
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Peter/Los Angeles, CA wrote:<br>
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&gt; Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it kind of strange that<br>
&gt; auto-sensing/auto-negotiating must be enabled on both sides for the feature<br>
&gt; to work a bit strange?<br>
<br>
 &nbsp;It isn't strange at all. &nbsp;During auto-negotation both ends exchange a<br>
list of capabilities that they support, and they decide what capabilities<br>
to enable. &nbsp;If you disable auto-negotiate at one end, the end still doing<br>
auto-negotiating will default to half-duplex. &nbsp;The speed is only thing<br>
that can automaticatically detected.<br>
<br>
...<br>
&gt; On the other hand, I have network cards on my computer which I can set to<br>
&gt; full/half/auto/10/100, whatever combination I like, and yet, the switch will<br>
&gt; continue to work.<br>
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 &nbsp;Not the duplex settings. &nbsp;If you disable auto-negotiating on your NIC,<br>
by forcing it to full-duplex, your auto-negotiating switch won't know what<br>
you support and default to half-duplex. &nbsp;If the duplex is mistmatched,<br>
everything seems to work, but there will be a 1 to 7% packet loss.<br>
<br>
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Tom<br>
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