From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 25 04:45:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C5A16A4CE for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 04:45:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zircon.seattle.wa.us (dsl231-043-165.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D194943D49 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 04:45:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us) Received: (qmail 77362 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2004 04:45:22 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Oct 2004 04:45:22 -0000 From: Joe Kelsey To: Tom McLaughlin In-Reply-To: <1098673535.12603.71.camel@compass.straycat.dhs.org> References: <1098482512.97730.10.camel@zircon> <1098673535.12603.71.camel@compass.straycat.dhs.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1098679522.97730.66.camel@zircon> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:45:22 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Gnome Subject: Re: Mr. Hildreth, please fix your broken mail system X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 04:45:23 -0000 On Sun, 2004-10-24 at 20:05, Tom McLaughlin wrote: > On Fri, 2004-10-22 at 15:01 -0700, Joe Kelsey wrote: > > Scott Hildreth has a completely broken mail system. Every time I > > respond to one of his messages, I get the following from his system. > > Scott, please fix this obviously broken system: > > > > Hi. This is the qmail-send program at zircon.seattle.wa.us. > > I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following > > addresses. > > This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. > > > > : > > 199.67.51.115 does not like recipient. > > Remote host said: 550 5.0.0 ... broadband > > speakeasy.net blocked due to Spam > > Giving up on 199.67.51.115. > > Are you sure this isn't a problem on your end? I get these all the time > with my qmail because my net block (Comcast) is commonly blacklisted. > Add allantgroup.com to your qmail smtproutes and route all mail to that > domain through another smtp host. It sucks but that's the way it goes > with many domains for a reason. If you happen to find a way to > automatically update smtproutes based on qmail logs please let me know, > I've been looking for something like this. Thanks. I personally find the blacklisting practice full of holes and misconceptions and propagated by administrators who don't really understand what they are doing or are too lazy to do things correctly. I prefer to not deal with people who mess up their mail reception systems due to cluelessness and ignorance. I do not modify smtproutes to try to get around broken systems. I complained about this one because Mr. Hildreth seemed to post a lot to the list and it is annoying to have to deal with the idiotic consequences of the administrators who have misconfigured his corporate domain. /Joe