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Date:      Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:45:22 -0700
From:      Joe Kelsey <joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us>
To:        Tom McLaughlin <tmclaugh@sdf.lonestar.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD Gnome <gnome@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Mr. Hildreth, please fix your broken mail system
Message-ID:  <1098679522.97730.66.camel@zircon>
In-Reply-To: <1098673535.12603.71.camel@compass.straycat.dhs.org>
References:  <1098482512.97730.10.camel@zircon> <1098673535.12603.71.camel@compass.straycat.dhs.org>

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On Sun, 2004-10-24 at 20:05, Tom McLaughlin wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-10-22 at 15:01 -0700, Joe Kelsey wrote:
> > Scott Hildreth has a completely broken mail system.  Every time I
> > respond to one of his messages, I get the following from his system. 
> > Scott, please fix this obviously broken system:
> > 
> > Hi. This is the qmail-send program at zircon.seattle.wa.us.
> > I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
> > addresses.
> > This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
> > 
> > <shildreth@allantgroup.com>:
> > 199.67.51.115 does not like recipient.
> > Remote host said: 550 5.0.0 <shildreth@allantgroup.com>... broadband
> > speakeasy.net blocked due to Spam
> > Giving up on 199.67.51.115.
> 
> Are you sure this isn't a problem on your end?  I get these all the time
> with my qmail because my net block (Comcast) is commonly blacklisted.
> Add allantgroup.com to your qmail smtproutes and route all mail to that
> domain through another smtp host.  It sucks but that's the way it goes
> with many domains for a reason.  If you happen to find a way to
> automatically update smtproutes based on qmail logs please let me know,
> I've been looking for something like this.  Thanks.

I personally find the blacklisting practice full of holes and
misconceptions and propagated by administrators who don't really
understand what they are doing or are too lazy to do things correctly.

I prefer to not deal with people who mess up their mail reception
systems due to cluelessness and ignorance.  I do not modify smtproutes
to try to get around broken systems.  I complained about this one
because Mr. Hildreth seemed to post a lot to the list and it is annoying
to have to deal with the idiotic consequences of the administrators who
have misconfigured his corporate domain.

/Joe




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