From nobody Sun Jun 26 23:07:39 2022 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF550866DC0 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2022 23:07:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from mx0.riseup.net (mx0.riseup.net [198.252.153.6]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx0.riseup.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4LWRN54d7Kz3vmk for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2022 23:07:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf-mardorf@riseup.net) Received: from fews1.riseup.net (fews1-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.riseup.net", Issuer "R3" (not verified)) by mx0.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4LWRMy2RMtz9tCX for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2022 23:07:42 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1656284862; bh=Aq28OZ0EE6AIgCEJQK2yrG64DGSYmAauK+QAyMz04ac=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=Q7dhFonQgA+V+bUvSXc3suH0tdeVtazs8wxv7aX36M2BR0isBqGWLU3pSgoa6ZznR 2m7yLQfP1uA0X/+EFTT9hijla/2LE7rZGcKB8EkfU9tFgNRAHj5sW3q7FSCgutDFXd 1BUGuBmUINR5LdWlqsfG7LzhXT1FbcrzGmaIAxNc= X-Riseup-User-ID: 5D8B88790BFB98E2E754C0CA007207B656CACC27984C04317B008601255D1205 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4LWRMx5FdDz5wNG for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2022 23:07:41 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 01:07:39 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Posting netiquette: HTML, attachments etc. Message-ID: <20220627010739.09abd985@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20220626185904.mqetrczfcubslxzp@aniel.nours.eu> References: <753A27F9-9CEA-4592-A44F-91164917358B@freebsd.org> <20220626185904.mqetrczfcubslxzp@aniel.nours.eu> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4LWRN54d7Kz3vmk X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=Q7dhFonQ; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ralf-mardorf@riseup.net designates 198.252.153.6 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ralf-mardorf@riseup.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.97 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[riseup.net:s=squak]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[riseup.net:dkim]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:mx0.riseup.net]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.63)[0.631]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[riseup.net:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[riseup.net,none]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16652, ipnet:198.252.153.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[198.252.153.6:from] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 20:59:04 +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >Note that the mailing list engine will reject html only email, html is >fine as long at it is created with text/plain alternative. Hi, it is _not_ "fine". >Note that only the text/plain alternative will be used to construct >the archive, [snip] This is what text/plain of multipart/alternative messages usually looks like by this list's archive, as well as by the list's former mailman archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions/2022-June/001448.html It does exactly look this way, when displayed by Claws on my my machine and on any other mailing list's archive. The reply starts below a broken signature separator followed by a quoted signature. The broken signature separator is not necessarily related to HTML. The reply itself starts with >-char quotation mark, a common issue with HTML mails. A lot of interleaved posting mails also look like this, at least then it's an unreasonable demand to expect from a recipient to decode such emails. Nothing at all is "fine" with messages that don't separate quotes from the reply? As a consequence: https://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2022-June/030466.html Regards, Ralf