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Date:      Thu, 18 Oct 2012 09:39:34 -0400
From:      John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
To:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Cc:        Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>, Tristan Verniquet <tris_vern@hotmail.com>
Subject:   Re: syncing large mmaped files
Message-ID:  <201210180939.34861.jhb@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <20121018083537.GQ35915@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua>
References:  <SNT124-W20F26CF7B468F7F09B9B4983760@phx.gbl> <20121018083537.GQ35915@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua>

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On Thursday, October 18, 2012 4:35:37 am Konstantin Belousov wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:08:22AM +1000, Tristan Verniquet wrote:
> > 
> > I want to work with large (1-10G) files in memory but eventually sync
> > them back out to disk. The problem is that the sync process appears to
> > lock the file in kernel for the duration of the sync, which can run
> > into minutes. This prevents other processes from reading from the file
> > (unless they already have it mapped) for this whole time. Is there
> > any way to prevent this? I think I read in a post somewhere about
> > openbsd implementing partial-writes when it hits a file with lots of
> > dirty pages in order to prevent this. Is there anything available for
> > FreeBSD or is there another way around it?
> >
> No, currently the vnode lock is held exclusive for the whole duration
> of the msync(2) syscall or its analog from the syncer.
> 
> Making a change to periodically drop the vnode lock in
> vm_object_page_clean() might be possible, but requires the benchmarking
> to make sure that we do not pessimize the common case. Also, this opens
> a possibility for the vnode reclamation meantime.

You can simulate this in userland by breaking up your msync() into multiple
msync() calls where each call just syncs a portion of the file.

> Anyway, note that you cannot 'work with large files in memory', even if
> you have enough RAM and no pressure to hold all the file pages resident.
> The syncer will do a writeback periodically regardless of the application
> calling msync(2) or not, with the interval of approximately 30 seconds.

You can mmap with MAP_NOSYNC to prevent the syncer from writing the file out
every 30 seconds.

-- 
John Baldwin



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