From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Aug 22 16:29:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18056 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 16:29:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from notabene.zer0.org (sac-port387.jps.net [209.63.247.152]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18051 for ; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 16:29:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gsutter@n1.dyn.ml.org) Received: (from gsutter@localhost) by notabene.zer0.org (8.8.7/8.8.8) id QAA08681; Sat, 22 Aug 1998 16:28:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gsutter) Message-ID: <19980822162831.N924@notabene.zer0.org> Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 16:28:31 -0700 From: Gregory Sutter To: Brett Glass , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Remark from Nick Petreley References: <199808221921.NAA24991@lariat.lariat.org> <199808221921.NAA24991@lariat.lariat.org> <19980822135700.J924@notabene.zer0.org> <199808222241.QAA26221@lariat.lariat.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.1i In-Reply-To: <199808222241.QAA26221@lariat.lariat.org>; from Brett Glass on Sat, Aug 22, 1998 at 04:41:32PM -0600 Organization: Zer0 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Aug 22, 1998 at 04:41:32PM -0600, Brett Glass wrote: > At 01:57 PM 8/22/98 -0700, Gregory Sutter wrote: > > >_Your_ previous comments on Stallman, more than anyone else on these > >lists (that I've heard from), are the ones which I would consider > >closest to Petreley's statement above. Practice what you preach. > > I do, and always have. It is the Linux zealots who interpret ANY remark that > critiques the "Holy GPL," or explains the actual intent behind it, as > sacriligious. Why is it always "Linux zealots" or "GPL zealots", but never "Brett Glass, BSD zealot" or "Brett Glass, commercialism zealot"? After all, people arguing equally ferociously on two sides of an issue can surely be branded the same. When you say things like: >Nope, it's communist. He [RMS] wants all software development to be done >by collectives that are subservient to the Supreme Soviet (oops, >I mean the FSF). >As usual, a group of GPL zealots have gotten loose in an InfoWorld forum, >claiming that RMS is nothing less than a saint and that the GPL is The One >True Way. >Anyone who critiques the GPL >is *immediately* branded a "Linux basher," a "zealot," or worse. >Ditto anyone who points out areas in which FreeBSD has advantages >over Linux. >I'm now convinced that these folks ARE out to kill the *BSDs. Apparently, >they're a threat to the GPL zealots for two reasons. First, they prove that >the restrictive terms of the GPL are not necessary to the success of >collaboratively developed softwre;[...] ...you show yourself to be just as vigorous, just as zealous, in your pursuit of what you feel as the stereotypical GPL zealot is in his. There is a place in this world for both GNU licensing and Open Source licensing, just as there are people who strongly and loudly support both. Greg -- Gregory S. Sutter Bureaucrats cut red tape -- lengthwise. mailto:gsutter@pobox.com http://www.pobox.com/~gsutter/ PGP DSS public key 0x40AE3052 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message