From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Apr 1 21:14: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7283B37B405 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2002 21:13:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g325Diru081426; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 14:43:46 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Subject: Re: Anti-Unix Site Runs Unix From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Terry Lambert Cc: Brett Glass , Anthony Atkielski , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3CA93944.D72D6AB7@mindspring.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020401153352.02b99760@nospam.lariat.org> <3CA8EB5F.2E91B408@mindspring.com> <1017709221.71119.5.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> <3CA91382.4E4E2B@mindspring.com> <1017714456.71119.20.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> <3CA93944.D72D6AB7@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.3 Date: 02 Apr 2002 14:43:39 +0930 Message-Id: <1017724424.71119.79.camel@chowder.gsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5 required=5 X-Spam-Level: (-5) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.6 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 14:23, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > Whether you like it or not is irrelevent to how much of an > > > installed base it represents vis-avis the current UNIX_using > > > market. > > > > Not that that particular market is very big in the browsing department.. > > So bitch at Microsoft for putting up a *web site* to reach them. Well I can read it :) Doesn't everyone use Mozilla? I prefer stable software.. > > You can download the source from > > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=6999 > > Doesn't work on AIX or Solaris. I haven't tried it on SCO, > mostly because I believe it will be a waste of time to do so. You've tried it on AIX and Solaris? > > You can get Mozilla from http://www.mozilla.org/releases/ > > I already have Netscape. You guys were arguing about Netscape > not working, and then you go and point me at Netscape... sheesh. Uhh Mozilla != Netscape 4.x > > At worst you could just use Mozilla which has releases for Win32, MacOS, > > Linux, AIX, BeOS, BSD/OS, FreeBSD, HPUX, OpenVMS, OS/2, Solaris and > > Tru64. Mozilla is no less stable than Galeon in my experience only > > slower and with slightly fewer features. > > I'm pretty sure that Galeon a whole bunch of stuff, plus > the Galeon stuff, to work. People were complaining about > it on -hackers, just the other day, when it took them 8 > hours to pull it down over their 28k modem. I can't parse the first part of that sentence. As for big downloads.. Netscape is not significantly smaller. Netscape 4.79 for AIX is around 13 Mb vs 16.5 Mb for Mozilla. Personally I think the 3.5Mb would be worth it for a browser that crashes way _way_ less and has many more useful features. > Can you point us at *binary* releases for versious OSs? For > 28k modem users, this puts them in the 1.5 hour range for a > 14M download. Did you visit the mozilla.org URL I posted? Here it is again http://www.mozilla.org/releases/ All the operating systems I listed had binary releases. > PS: UNIX people tend to use UNIX for everything. This includes > browsing. It doesn't make a heck of a lot of sense to run some > other OS, if your intent is to not run that OS on your servers, > as well, so a UNIX ship will have UNIX desktops, and they will > probably be the same flavor of UNIX as they have deployed for > their hosting facilities, since it also makes little sense to > have to keep people up to speed on several OSs, rather than, > say, doing useful work. What an interesting, but highly irrelevant point. Can't say I agree, but it's a different issue to what we're talking about. I would consider my office a 'unix shop' but we do have Windows machines here. Lack of a decent Office suite or PCB and schematic tools tend to prevent me from installing FreeBSD on all of our machines (and believe me I'd like to). --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message