From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 20 16:39:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DED8106564A for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:39:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from root1101@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A1CF8FC21 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:39:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbon10 with SMTP id n10so1106364lbo.13 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:39:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IYWtK6Zf01c58ShcOITRng4sMbvmyFC+LLwOSFQXGg0=; b=ukIdKPQdS9np3azy5C9QO8D7kjgPBtIDpVLXajskMhd4axhQBMRH9oKQSua3kG1Jml +8+VuwYrV6nKLWIY4TgDpYlmxvqG+DSLaXcqBmrtSMTp5mKcWkdGry+2OXOm7LaSm8md oOQbgl3rdnyRzB4pkI7h/5UCAOklWob3H2188kCO1JU/Qrmgx9TXgeZecnQbi/MPfg6T 4jPofcwaZoBKPtfFnwG7FvVOkjP+NZjsmrY1ixHPiHaNDUJfp6Zs+aO4oiMU5+Lju5AL bCz4KDk0yeIO3U0jznUWC+JIQsCNIX2jAyeG3dbo6IIjZgZ66aPdNUmz4KRtq477eUb6 Bwyw== Received: by 10.152.46.232 with SMTP id y8mr23148654lam.18.1340210385041; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:39:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (ppp91-79-239-71.pppoe.mtu-net.ru. [91.79.239.71]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id pp2sm40692143lab.3.2012.06.20.09.39.43 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FE1FD18.7010101@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 20:40:56 +0400 From: =?UTF-8?B?0JXQstCz0LXQvdC40Lkg0JvQsNC60YLQsNC90L7Qsg==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.3) Gecko/20120420 Thunderbird/10.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <402199FE-380B-41B6-866B-7D5D66C457D5@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <854D02B1-CA89-4F5E-8773-DB05F2868D74@lpthe.jussieu.fr> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: CLANG vs GCC tests of fortran/f2c program X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:39:46 -0000 20.06.2012 18:47, Mark Felder пишет: > On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:43:14 -0500, Wojciech Puchar > wrote: > >>> Why not make FreeBSD better for everyone by cooperating with the >>> CLANG project? >> >> because we already have great compiler - GCC. In spite of using GPL >> licence. > > GCC performs well, but it is a very messy undocumented codebase which > makes maintaining it a nightmare. Just ask Google -- you'll find many > others saying the same thing. It would take MORE work to get FreeBSD > devs up to speed on the GCC codebase to add the features we want than > it is to cooperate with the CLANG community and help them make their > compiler better than GCC in every test case. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > It is the classic developer/user argument. It is also stupid. The user side simply doesn't have the same needs, it can't understand how freaking hard it is sometimes to debug a large and complex program in a badly documented environment or worse with undocumented features. If it works faster ergo it is better - that is the only criteria to really have a meaning to a user.