From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 17 12:26:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D75106566C for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:26:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B98328FC12 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:26:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 54354 invoked by uid 89); 17 Sep 2009 12:26:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 17 Sep 2009 12:26:24 -0000 Message-ID: <4AB22B09.4070507@ibctech.ca> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 08:26:49 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anselm Strauss References: <7E2DB08A-9E11-47D7-904D-9F3D8490868E@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7E2DB08A-9E11-47D7-904D-9F3D8490868E@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms030404030206090309010106" Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: ZFS on small systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:26:48 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms030404030206090309010106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anselm Strauss wrote: > Hi, > > I'm interested in using ZFS on one of my small systems with 256 MB of > RAM and 4 GB flash disk. Since ZFS is now considered production ready on > FreeBSD I would like to use it as root filesystem and profit mainly from > the cool snapshot features for easy backups. > > I found multiple recommendations to run ZFS only on systems with enough > resources. But is this only a requirement if you want good performance > or also for ZFS to function properly at all? I've found that on the i386 arch, that at minimum you need 756M of memory to do anything really useful. Now, I don't know if this has changed or not, but I doubt that the box would be useful for anything with only 256M. With that said, I can keep a box running at max disk r/w for hours on end with 2GB, and 1536M allocated/reserved for ZFS. Perhaps however that there have been enhancements introduced that I don't know about, that allow ZFS to operate in such a small memory address space, but for some reason I doubt it. If I'm wrong, someone will let us know ;) Steve --------------ms030404030206090309010106 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIII/zCC AtowggJDoAMCAQICEEs5xg/J3t77QWJ4SatV1HcwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UE BhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMT I1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA5MDUwNzIzMTYxMFoX DTEwMDUwNzIzMTYxMFowQjEfMB0GA1UEAxMWVGhhd3RlIEZyZWVtYWlsIE1lbWJlcjEfMB0G CSqGSIb3DQEJARYQc3RldmVAaWJjdGVjaC5jYTCCASIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADggEPADCC AQoCggEBAJSTRAjP1RVa87/mnZn+PBTbENgyhhBJ4rWApmaNcthzRdk2DB/49KrXx3EQP60w Lj4KU0DFkiGNVj9BnVxRAx/WDXKxGC3uGGEG6gjyWv8KFMWMsH9mL7y7uNow1HueT6pZUf9o yY8Ewd+01QpGi7FfXOae7lGHhbEwnEJGwz08ytRfLmH0KtEzlZanZZhwDGX5s1kIHnyxdACh 3byXY6Z2bOrx0rcrQHCnHJppxddR60F7igjaMuBFstE51h9XTgXDNKJbglqTug5ghGihNuP6 VsBN7ue62y96UGIE22TvKEcAQ665vQGjHqZeSzZYy+hWNOa27pWFmhlqFjx0x8MCAwEAAaMt MCswGwYDVR0RBBQwEoEQc3RldmVAaWJjdGVjaC5jYTAMBgNVHRMBAf8EAjAAMA0GCSqGSIb3 DQEBBQUAA4GBAMOmjxjp2Xzk6ZHLwTgFDzVhm98RjRT3UXotKjNIR7SgwfWF5wkJrx4I+dXu ui5ztMEq4bTTRgJ344MqE6uZiZlg+tBIFHZGCJfKdzsX4QuV2jmw0sR5dMaYxG6tlDB0YUMv gTqzV7ZDpiusTMOZe9pP1PdxFhOcIJXtMQDj5LhuMIIC2jCCAkOgAwIBAgIQSznGD8ne3vtB YnhJq1XUdzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQUFADBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3Rl IENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVt YWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0EwHhcNMDkwNTA3MjMxNjEwWhcNMTAwNTA3MjMxNjEwWjBCMR8wHQYD VQQDExZUaGF3dGUgRnJlZW1haWwgTWVtYmVyMR8wHQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhBzdGV2ZUBpYmN0 ZWNoLmNhMIIBIjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEAlJNECM/VFVrzv+admf48 FNsQ2DKGEEnitYCmZo1y2HNF2TYMH/j0qtfHcRA/rTAuPgpTQMWSIY1WP0GdXFEDH9YNcrEY Le4YYQbqCPJa/woUxYywf2YvvLu42jDUe55PqllR/2jJjwTB37TVCkaLsV9c5p7uUYeFsTCc QkbDPTzK1F8uYfQq0TOVlqdlmHAMZfmzWQgefLF0AKHdvJdjpnZs6vHStytAcKccmmnF11Hr QXuKCNoy4EWy0TnWH1dOBcM0oluCWpO6DmCEaKE24/pWwE3u57rbL3pQYgTbZO8oRwBDrrm9 AaMepl5LNljL6FY05rbulYWaGWoWPHTHwwIDAQABoy0wKzAbBgNVHREEFDASgRBzdGV2ZUBp YmN0ZWNoLmNhMAwGA1UdEwEB/wQCMAAwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQADgYEAw6aPGOnZfOTpkcvB OAUPNWGb3xGNFPdRei0qM0hHtKDB9YXnCQmvHgj51e66LnO0wSrhtNNGAnfjgyoTq5mJmWD6 0EgUdkYIl8p3OxfhC5XaObDSxHl0xpjEbq2UMHRhQy+BOrNXtkOmK6xMw5l72k/U93EWE5wg le0xAOPkuG4wggM/MIICqKADAgECAgENMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMIHRMQswCQYDVQQGEwJa QTEVMBMGA1UECBMMV2VzdGVybiBDYXBlMRIwEAYDVQQHEwlDYXBlIFRvd24xGjAYBgNVBAoT EVRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nMSgwJgYDVQQLEx9DZXJ0aWZpY2F0aW9uIFNlcnZpY2VzIERp dmlzaW9uMSQwIgYDVQQDExtUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgQ0ExKzApBgkqhkiG 9w0BCQEWHHBlcnNvbmFsLWZyZWVtYWlsQHRoYXd0ZS5jb20wHhcNMDMwNzE3MDAwMDAwWhcN MTMwNzE2MjM1OTU5WjBiMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRp bmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3Vp bmcgQ0EwgZ8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADgY0AMIGJAoGBAMSmPFVzVftOucqZWh5owHUEcJ3f 6f+jHuy9zfVb8hp2vX8MOmHyv1HOAdTlUAow1wJjWiyJFXCO3cnwK4Vaqj9xVsuvPAsH5/Ef kTYkKhPPK9Xzgnc9A74r/rsYPge/QIACZNenprufZdHFKlSFD0gEf6e20TxhBEAeZBlyYLf7 AgMBAAGjgZQwgZEwEgYDVR0TAQH/BAgwBgEB/wIBADBDBgNVHR8EPDA6MDigNqA0hjJodHRw Oi8vY3JsLnRoYXd0ZS5jb20vVGhhd3RlUGVyc29uYWxGcmVlbWFpbENBLmNybDALBgNVHQ8E BAMCAQYwKQYDVR0RBCIwIKQeMBwxGjAYBgNVBAMTEVByaXZhdGVMYWJlbDItMTM4MA0GCSqG SIb3DQEBBQUAA4GBAEiM0VCD6gsuzA2jZqxnD3+vrL7CF6FDlpSdf0whuPg2H6otnzYvwPQc UCCTcDz9reFhYsPZOhl+hLGZGwDFGguCdJ4lUJRix9sncVcljd2pnDmOjCBPZV+V2vf3h9bG CE6u9uo05RAaWzVNd+NWIXiC3CEZNd4ksdMdRv9dX2VPMYIDZDCCA2ACAQEwdjBiMQswCQYD VQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UE AxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0ECEEs5xg/J3t77QWJ4SatV 1HcwCQYFKw4DAhoFAKCCAcMwGAYJKoZIhvcNAQkDMQsGCSqGSIb3DQEHATAcBgkqhkiG9w0B CQUxDxcNMDkwOTE3MTIyNjQ5WjAjBgkqhkiG9w0BCQQxFgQUXk9u8QIbX9CxoRhvksrWn1ZB O84wUgYJKoZIhvcNAQkPMUUwQzAKBggqhkiG9w0DBzAOBggqhkiG9w0DAgICAIAwDQYIKoZI hvcNAwICAUAwBwYFKw4DAgcwDQYIKoZIhvcNAwICASgwgYUGCSsGAQQBgjcQBDF4MHYwYjEL MAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAq BgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAhBLOcYPyd7e+0Fi eEmrVdR3MIGHBgsqhkiG9w0BCRACCzF4oHYwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRo YXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBG cmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAhBLOcYPyd7e+0FieEmrVdR3MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUABIIB AHAGpv2DQEPiaPHPz6m9lXHuHnGZM5vt+jnc6OEqPHNst9TVWCzcW9B742ryXJra/rA4lQA5 l3O3rD5VuUdPIFoloELMp87ImJsDXdolCI5zZn81i2OWy0X5omAweKBcQVSK/v53e1bQs7/7 PlRjlGNw/1uSq01OvTq+NygRxrdBqVGf28KJ074MouhaLWSIqbXwASYXk3i+KXSh0SSnfhGU FVsPAFXltBMSGj5NywQ46D9rlslG0dCGUI+3er+zjm9Nayhv1fyTDTWUmZA4SiQdCjlOeBO0 TOZbMlsZxICaMmAq4FgSuYe091JvAiz8xdMWXc1tqSH/g8mb9RSUMngAAAAAAAA= --------------ms030404030206090309010106--