From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 11 14:38:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C921065673 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:38:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D87DC8FC13 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:38:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mBBEWoAJ040386; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:32:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id mBBEWn6V040385; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:32:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:32:49 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Da Rock Message-ID: <20081211143249.GC40295@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4be2da2e0812062344y26eddcc9sf589531d10c71a1c@mail.gmail.com> <20081207093713.O5433@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081207082932.04a7cf16@scorpio> <1228733209.4495.12.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1228733209.4495.12.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:38:16 -0000 On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 08:46:49PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: > > On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 08:29 -0500, Jerry wrote: > > > > IMHO, before FreeBSD can make a significant market share improvement, > > it has to improve its hardware support. NVidia, for one, has expressed > > a desire to support FreeBSD; however, it needs the FreeBSD organization > > to improve its basic product, especially in the 64-bit systems, which > > are the future of computing. > > Ok. So what needs improvement and where to start? Not being critical, > I'm interested in this. > > Personally though, I think the business model here is a failure and > seriously flawed. And yes, I did study business at Monash (and butted > heads constantly; IF you don't look out for the health and well being of > a community, environment, employees, whatever- the extreme social > responsibility- then the clients and potential clients die, ergo no > customers therefore no money to be made. Thats looking after your > bottomline: Duh!) and saw this continually. Marketing the same; The thing people seem to forget is that FreeBSD doesn't have a business model - or that is its business model. It is simply sharing technology without much concern about propagation or return. It accepts contributions of various kinds, mostly in kind. ////jerry > appealing to all markets is extremely lucrative, and with the technology > literally at our fingertips can be very easy to do. So why not just pull > the finger out and do it instead of saying its too hard, too much > trouble, etc. Old people at the wheel stuck on old ways and refusing to > budge (no offense intended to those on the list- I have a lot of respect > for those in technology; strangely the inverse is true- they actually > know what they're doing and do it properly the first time) in > management. > > Sorry for the rant, but that's just my 2c. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"