From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Nov 22 15:33:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA27093 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 15:33:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from vinyl.quickweb.com (vinyl.quickweb.com [206.222.77.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA26997; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 15:32:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (mark@localhost) by vinyl.quickweb.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA24705; Fri, 22 Nov 1996 18:30:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 18:30:00 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Mayo To: Terry Lambert cc: sos@freebsd.org, p.richards@elsevier.co.uk, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ATAPI (was: Who needs Perl? We do!) In-Reply-To: <199611222059.NAA15948@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 22 Nov 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > Reality check: _ALL_ PC's sold these days ship with ATAPI CDROM > > > drives..... > > FWIW: > > Our company just bought a bunch of Micron machines. They are all SCSI, > and they were not special order. > I'm assuming they were part of the "high-end" line at Micron -- I just checked their ads and they ship SCSI on the high-end line. THis makes sense.. but the point is that anyone buying the best in a PC _should_ know the advantages of SCSI, and will probably request SCSI if the machine doesn't ship with SCSI by default. Still, most people (I'd best 90% of PC's sold today) are shipped with ATAPI CDROMS -- and EIDE hard drives. When I was saying ALL, I meant damn near ALL... I hate IDE/ATAPI and wouldn't run it on my machine if dealers GAVE me the crap. And I certainly would never _build_ a machine for FreeBSD with IDE, but that's irrelevent. You're living in make believe world if you think the average PC user who might be interested in running FreeBSD will have a full SCSI box... We NEED better IDE/ATAPI support. I dont' have a big enough brain to write this stuff myself, but I will conribute whatever I can to help the cause. -mark > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. > --------------------------------------------------- | Mark Mayo mark@quickweb.com | | RingZero Comp. vinyl.quickweb.com/mark | --------------------------------------------------- "To iterate is human, to recurse divine." - L. Peter Deutsch