From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 04:09:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 523BA16A400 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:09:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E91613C461 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:09:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.7] (may be forged)) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l1R49Ytc001501 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:09:34 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.41] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l1R49Yfr003089 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:09:34 -0800 Message-ID: <45E3AEEB.5070505@u.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:09:15 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <7dc029620702260923k7ae9849au1effab3dd783f684@mail.gmail.com> <20760.163.150.15.182.1172512427.squirrel@squirrel.kq6up.org> <20070226214918.V38271@chylonia.3miasto.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.2.26.195433 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __FRAUD_419_BADTHINGS 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:09:35 -0000 Juha Saarinen wrote: > Outlook has some good features, no doubt about that, but it's not a > great IMAP client. Outlook Express is better - doesn't use Personal > Storage Files that grow into insane sizes and suffer corruption, plus > allows you to relocate Special Folders to the IMAP server, like Sent > Messages and Drafts. You want to be able to do this, trust me. OE is > also much quicker. > > Thunderbird has its own set of issues, but it's the best readily > available IMAP client for Windows users currently. The latest beta of > version 2.0 works rather nicely. It doesn't have the features > corporate Outlook users expect though, like good contacts management, > calendaring and ability to synch with mobile devices. > > If Outlook was a better IMAP client and could be coaxed into handling > email properly without resorting to VBA hacks, I'd switch to it. > Unfortunately however, Microsoft is turning a deaf ear to fixing those > issues, and Outlook 2007 for instance has taken a few steps forward > (better IMAP support) but also some backwards (quoting is badly broken > by default). > > Bringing it back to FreeBSD, Outlook will work with any old IMAP > server. Just not as well as other clients. Unforunately you (and many others on the list) have missed the point I think. The OP said that he was stuck with outlook because of his pda syncing, and there definitely isn't a means available (or at least a good, popular one -- I know I'm inviting flames from KDE / Gnome lovers..), in Unix for PDA syncing because everyone chooses Windows. Bleh.. Even OSX doesn't have a good mobile device syncing tool and it's lightyears ahead of what Gnome and KDE have in some respects. I honestly would use another client for your mail though, since Gmail's pop3 service (while nice) is less than to be desired.. -Garrett