From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 3 06:12:57 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A9316A4BF for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2003 06:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from otter3.centtech.com (moat3.centtech.com [207.200.51.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFEE643FE5 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2003 06:12:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Received: from centtech.com (neutrino.centtech.com [204.177.173.28]) by otter3.centtech.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h83DCuob096022; Wed, 3 Sep 2003 08:12:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from anderson@centtech.com) Message-ID: <3F55E8D6.3010003@centtech.com> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 08:12:54 -0500 From: Eric Anderson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Coile References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: TechTV - FreeBSD v. Linux Shootout X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 13:12:57 -0000 Steve Coile wrote: > On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Eric Anderson wrote: > >>Matt Olander wrote: >>[..snip..] >> >>>Murray, unless I'm mistaken, the linux guy must have fudged a bit at the >>>end of the install because after we'd finished, his screen still showed >>>like 35 minutes to go and then he immediately plugged in his laptop ;) >> >>Sadly enough, even my wife noticed that. We were both watching as the >>install was creeping by on the linux machine, and FreeBSD was completely >>done, ready to roll. They broke for commercial, and the next thing you >>know he is up and running full desktop. My wife said "aren't they still >> installing? I thought they still had a lot left?".. I had no response >>for her. >> >>I did notice how defensive the linux guy was.. must have had too much >>caffeine before the show or something.. > > > The neat thing about the installed Linux box is that you can tailor > off parts of the operating system without having to (a) re-install > the entire box; (b) know anything about how the parts are installed; > or (c) know anything about the dependencies between the parts. Those could be seen as both positive, and negative points, depending on your point of view. > A Linux install takes longer than a FreeBSD install because it isn't just > a straight copy to the target disk. There's package management involved, > which is a *HUGE* benefit of the Linux world. That FreeBSD components > aren't packaged by default is a major deficiency, in my opinion. Agreed - but my point wasn't "nah nah, we finished first", it was "hey, how come you said your install was done, and it wasn't?" - that's all. > So, yes, Linux takes longer to install, but your system has some very > important and useful information when it's done. The biggest time consumer is the fact that linux distros install all kinds of extra apps that are not essential for running the OS - not that they aren't nice apps, I'm just pointing out the difference in philosophies. Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Systems Administrator Centaur Technology All generalizations are false, including this one. ------------------------------------------------------------------