From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 10 00:46:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FF2DA25 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 00:46:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail3.transactionware.com (mail.transactionware.com [203.14.245.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BCCCB243E for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 00:46:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 8205 invoked by uid 907); 10 Jun 2014 00:39:55 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO jmmacpro.tmst.com.au) (203.14.245.130) (smtp-auth username janm, mechanism plain) by mail3.transactionware.com (qpsmtpd/0.84) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) ESMTPSA; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 10:39:55 +1000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.2\)) Subject: Re: Not to beat a dead horse, but ... From: Jan Mikkelsen In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 10:39:06 +1000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <5394A848.7030609@m5p.com> To: Andreas Nilsson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.2) Cc: George Mitchell , FreeBSD Stable Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 00:46:39 -0000 Hi, On 9 Jun 2014, at 4:58, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 8:15 PM, George Mitchell = > wrote: >=20 >> [ =85 ] >> The party line seems to be, "Well, everybody knows SCHED_ULE sucks >> on uniprocessors." Hello? Not everybody has upgraded to multiple >> core or hyperthreaded processors yet. Do we really want to write >> off every uniprocessor piece of hardware out here? >>=20 > Yes? Can you even buy a system today that is uniprocessor? My phone is = a > dual core thing, and it got written of because of its "meagre" = hardware. > Top of the line phones has 8 cores. So, seriously, what non-ancient = system > have you acquired that is uniprocessor? Please include links for = available > hardware for laptops, desktops or servers. > /A Embedded systems. There are lots of them. Your phone is pretty close to = a general purpose computer now and has to do a lot of stuff, including = being a gaming device. Lots of workloads fit into smaller systems. See: http://www.soekris.com/ http://www.advantech.com/ http://www.pcengines.ch/ http://www.chippc.com/ Those are just the Intel based ones - for ARM and MIPS there is a very = long list (we don=92t run FreeBSD on those yet, but we are planning to.) Regards, Jan.