Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:34:41 -0300 From: JoaoBR <joao@matik.com.br> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, "Adrian Chadd" <adrian@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Communicating with the public (was Re: Possibility for FreeBSD 4.11 Extended Support) Message-ID: <200612221134.41455.joao@matik.com.br> In-Reply-To: <d763ac660612220513u3a8fd32fxd60f52ecf03fec23@mail.gmail.com> References: <000801c723bb$efc2b540$260ba8c0@wii.wintecind.com> <20061222072905.75f2c9d2.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> <d763ac660612220513u3a8fd32fxd60f52ecf03fec23@mail.gmail.com>
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On Friday 22 December 2006 10:13, Adrian Chadd wrote: > On 22/12/06, Bill Moran <wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> wrote: > > I could be wrong, but I get the impression that this whole EOL issue wi= th > > 4.x is partly a result of not reminding people when the EOL date for 4.x > > is every 5 minutes. The result is that it's just hitting home for a lot > > of people now that it's the 11th hour. > > The trouble Squid had was its push to a new codebase (2.5 -> 3.0) > without adequately considering what users wanted. After all, if users > don't get any of what they want then there's probably no chance of any > paid work out of it.. Users cried for new features but with the > stability of the existing codebase. In the end the developers caved > and provided Squid-2.6 which seems to have begun reinvigorating the > project somewhat. > this is Interesting ... you said in your former mail: > (I have the same problem with the Squid project. Lots of people want > Squid to do everything, noone's willing to hire programmers to fix up > Squid to do these things and release the work back to the public. Then > people complain that Squid doesn't have 21st century features. Grr. > Sometimes I think we in the Squid project need better PR..) In my opinion squid today is off the track. =46irstable seems that the squid project is mostly concerned about beeing a= =20 proxy-server for small companies, doing nat and authentication and all this= =20 nasty stuff If you target this market there is indeed *NO* money, people hooking =20 corporate network on ADSL are looking for freestuff or cheapstuff.=20 squid-project forgot where the money is: in cache since the trend with PtP application does not help at all squid should look= =20 still deeper into cache performance because that is what people are willed = to=20 spend money in. but what does happen? this issues regarding squid's cache are turned down (= on=20 squid mlists) and are ignored. coss and aufs on freebsd does not give=20 performance like diskd but nobody fixed this stupid cache-emptying problem.= =20 Overall Freebsd problems are not taken serious and squid-chief seems to be= =20 concerend about linux only. so now I come back to my "..." at the top, interesting because even if you = did=20 what users wanted you didn't got the results you wanted. So I guess you did= =20 hear the wrong thing or you did hear the wrong people right? Or the product= =20 was not on the right track. What squid needs in my opinion is a kind of fork with a stripped real=20 cache-server without any proxy enhancements and targetting the real market= =20 for it. But that is only my opinion. =2D-=20 Jo=E3o A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br
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