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Date:      Mon, 28 Jan 2002 05:27:48 +0200
From:      Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@freebsd.org>
To:        Keshav Tadimeti <keshav_tadimeti@yahoo.com>
Cc:        newbies@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD 4.4 packages
Message-ID:  <20020128032748.GC47298@hades.hell.gr>
In-Reply-To: <001401c1a7a1$d38226e0$a94da9cb@keshav>
References:  <001401c1a7a1$d38226e0$a94da9cb@keshav>

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On 2002-01-28 10:16:39, Keshav Tadimeti wrote:
> Hello All,
> I finally managed to download FreeBSD 4.4 (4 discs). Thanks for all
> your help (esp Mark Hepp).

Welcome to the FreeBSD side of the world :)))

> I am disapointed with the ports and packages collection in the CDROMs
> 3& 4. I particularly want KDevelop (the IDE for KDE development). The
> number of ports/packages is limited!! No JDK!!

The space a single .iso image has is limited, as you know.  That is
why the ports collection exists.  Those packages that can not be
included in a single CDROM image, can be downloaded and installed
later on, using the /usr/ports framework.

> 1. DO I have to download this (KDevelop) seperately? Is it available
> as an ISO image?

Yes, you can use /usr/ports to download and install many Gigabytes of
software.  There is not enough space to put ALL the packages in a
single CDROM image though :-/

> 2. Also does anyone know how to UPGRADE from 4.3 to 4.4. I went
> through the INSTALL document in the installation CD ROM. THere are
> parts that I find difficult.

Your best bet is not to upgrade using the CDROM installation, but to
download the changes to the source with CVSup and rebuild from the
source.  This has worked for me nicely ever since the first
3.0-RELEASE installation I used to get rid of an old, rusty Slackware
Linux installation that I had got tired of upgrading manually.

> He says configuration files in /etc must be backed up and restored.
> Since I am new to all this, I am hesitant to do this. Can some one
> (with some time to spare) list out what (s)he did?

As I said, my first installation was from a 3.0-RELEASE CDROM.  I had
borrowed and copied that from a local FreeBSD user.  Then I read the
Handbook and the FAQ to find my way around the system.  You can only
guess how happy I was that installing the doc distribution from the
CDROM gave me a full copy of the Handbook and FAQ in /usr/share/doc.

The rest was easy.

- I read the Handbook section on upgrading from source with CVSup.
  http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html

- I installed cvsup from the ports.  You can either install from the
  ports, or grab the latest cvsup as a package, and install it by
  running as root:

	# pkg_install http://people.freebsd.org/~jdp/s1g/i386-nogui/cvsup-16.1e.tgz

- I updated my sources in /usr/src using:

	# cvsup -g -L 2 -h cvsup.de.freebsd.org /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile

  (At the time there wasn't a Greek CVSup mirror, so I used either
  cvsup.de.freebsd.org or cvsup.dk.freebsd.org for my updates.)

- I rebuild everything following the instructions of
  /usr/src/UPDATING.

That's all.  If you try to update your system following the steps
shown above and you still have questions, you can always ask by
posting a message to the freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org list.

Have fun upgrading,

-- 
Giorgos Keramidas . . . . . . . . . keramida@{ceid.upatras.gr,freebsd.org}
FreeBSD Documentation Project . . . http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/
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