From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 11:39:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D08861065673 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:39:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2CB728FC14 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:39:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: (qmail 2019 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2008 11:39:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blizzard.dnsalias.org) (218.215.166.240) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 29 Oct 2008 11:39:55 -0000 Received: by blizzard.dnsalias.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1BFF117075; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:39:53 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:39:53 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: freebsd@t41t.com Message-ID: <20081029113953.GA77037@ozzmosis.com> References: <20081029095511.GA76242@ozzmosis.com> <20081029111033.GG7408@ece.pdx.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081029111033.GG7408@ece.pdx.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports missing their packages. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:39:57 -0000 On Wed 2008-10-29 04:10:33 UTC-0700, freebsd@t41t.com (freebsd@t41t.com) wrote: > I'm not sure I got all the emails in this thread... maybe some just > haven't arrived yet. It began on freebsd-ports, then the OP started cross-posting to -questions, so I moved my replies to -questions. > Anyway... I, for one, depend on packages. It literally takes days to > build something like Firefox on my (admittedly old) computer. I'm > surprised that package creation is such a low priority. Are there so > few people running FreeBSD on old hardware? Well, FF eats memory. Just running it on something older than that is not going to be a pleasant experience. I imagine most people using Firefox are probably using fairly modern hardware, built within the last 4 years or so. I built Firefox from ports on a 5 year old 1.6 GHz PC running 7.0-REL in 256 Mb RAM. It certainly didn't take _days_ to build. From memory I ran it overnight and it was done in the morning. I would've killed the build if it was still running when I woke up. Anyway, Firefox is a pretty complicated piece of software. Most ports don't take anything like that long to build. In any case, there are packages of Firefox available, so it's not as bad as you make out! ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/www/firefox-2.0.0.17,1.tbz ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/www/firefox-3.0.3,1.tbz ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/www/firefox-2.0.0.17,1.tbz ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/www/firefox-3.0.3,1.tbz