From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Thu Jul 30 16:52:08 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E8A63AA713; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 16:52:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from st_esser@t-online.de) Received: from mailout01.t-online.de (mailout01.t-online.de [194.25.134.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mailout00.t-online.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BHbzq4Yncz4d6s; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 16:52:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from st_esser@t-online.de) Received: from fwd19.aul.t-online.de (fwd19.aul.t-online.de [172.20.27.65]) by mailout01.t-online.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 9834C4278DA1; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 18:52:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Stefans-MacBook-Pro-449.fritz.box (Vgd20eZEwhj1cBWBjhapfLq9IQgNY+qjLQUaTBifgOn+O0a6xpbb-DFkPOa1D57Qpk@[93.200.63.47]) by fwd19.t-online.de with (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 encrypted) esmtp id 1k1Bmh-2Oyvqa0; Thu, 30 Jul 2020 18:51:59 +0200 Subject: Re: svn commit: r363091 - in head/contrib/bc: . include manuals src tests tests/bc To: Baptiste Daroussin , Jessica Clarke Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Stefan_E=c3=9fer?= , src-committers , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org References: <202007110733.06B7XJrp033777@repo.freebsd.org> <20200730162009.rnjs6l5rjqsoiqpq@ivaldir.net> <20200730163154.a4d7672xsugkhmxq@ivaldir.net> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Stefan_E=c3=9fer?= Message-ID: <7f89d655-eeaf-beca-5531-77da2b790c01@t-online.de> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 18:51:58 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200730163154.a4d7672xsugkhmxq@ivaldir.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-ID: Vgd20eZEwhj1cBWBjhapfLq9IQgNY+qjLQUaTBifgOn+O0a6xpbb-DFkPOa1D57Qpk X-TOI-EXPURGATEID: 150726::1596127919-00008954-9EF43298/0/0 CLEAN NORMAL X-TOI-MSGID: 5a900d75-76e5-48b9-9db3-6a929b047788 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BHbzq4Yncz4d6s X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; ASN(0.00)[asn:3320, ipnet:194.25.0.0/16, country:DE]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 16:52:08 -0000 Am 30.07.20 um 18:31 schrieb Baptiste Daroussin: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 05:28:19PM +0100, Jessica Clarke wrote: >> On 30 Jul 2020, at 17:20, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >>> On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 07:33:19AM +0000, Stefan Eßer wrote: >>>> Author: se >>>> Date: Sat Jul 11 07:33:18 2020 >>>> New Revision: 363091 >>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/363091 >>>> >>>> Log: >>>> Update to version 3.1.3 >>>> >>> Jumping on that commit, since the switch from our previous bc. >>> >>> The output of the interactive bc has changed, the previous version had a clean >>> UI, the new version "pollutes" the output with plenty of lines about the >>> copyright: >>> >>> ==== >>> Copyright (c) 2018-2020 Gavin D. Howard and contributors >>> Report bugs at: https://git.yzena.com/gavin/bc >>> >>> This is free software with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. >>> ==== >>> >>> Imagine if all programs where doing that, it would be painful, do you think >>> upstream can be convinced to remove those lines? >>> >>> I no the GNU version also has the same polluted output which was one of the >>> reason I was happy with out previous version of bc. >> >> By default both will print such a banner if and only if being called >> interactively. You can disable the banner explicitly with -q/--quiet >> for both GNU bc and this bc. I agree it's a bit noisy and would be >> nicer to not have that printed, but it's not without precedent for >> REPL-like things. > > Yes it is not without precedent for REPL-like things, still I dislike this and > would be happy to get bc interactive be as nice as the previous one we had :) > > If not I will deal with it and just yell internally each time I run it :D I'll forward this thread to the author - had already stated similar thought to him for consideration. Is very interested to prevent forks of his software - although not forbidden by the license - but he wants to keep his sources as the official and "clean" upstream for other projects. My guess is that he'll add a compile time switch to his version that will be added to our usr.bin Makefile and will suppress the start-up message in our base system version. (I'll keep the port version as is unless there is a strong preference to suppress it also in the port). I'd expect it to take a few days (since he only tags new versions after running a fuzzer for a few days if non-trivial changes have been performed and I know he improved something in the interpreter without publishing it, yet) ... Regards, STefan