From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 9 22:23:26 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70F2916A4CE for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:23:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ptb-relay02.plus.net (ptb-relay02.plus.net [212.159.14.213]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2109243D1F for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:23:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marko@freebsd.org) Received: from movens.plus.com ([80.229.231.20] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by ptb-relay02.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Cz0F3-000D0B-7f; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 22:23:25 +0000 Message-ID: <420A8CFA.20800@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 22:21:46 +0000 From: Mark Ovens User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 7.0 (Windows/20050209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Johnson David References: <9C4E897FB284BF4DBC9C0DC42FB34617641AD4@mvaexch01.acuson.com> In-Reply-To: <9C4E897FB284BF4DBC9C0DC42FB34617641AD4@mvaexch01.acuson.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0506-0, 08/02/2005), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SPAM: Score 4.5: Re: The FreeBSD Project is announcing a publ ic competition for the new logo design. ???? X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 22:23:26 -0000 Johnson David wrote: >> From: Mark Ovens [mailto:marko@freebsd.org] >> Ricardo Alves dos Reis wrote: >> > Unfortunately, the cute FreeBSD daemon is sometimes treated with >> > misunderstanding in the religious and cultural context. That's why The >> > FreeBSD Project is announcing a public competition for the new logo >> > design. You can find the rules of the competition in this document. >> > >> > http://logo-contest.freebsd.org/announce.txt ?????? >> > >> >> So, the FreeBSD Project is giving in to the narrow-minded, >> puritanical, moral minority who, despite their preachings are not very >> well-informed as they don't know the difference between 'demon' and >> 'daemon'. Is this a sign (or a victim perhaps?) of the "growing >> conservatism sweeping Bush's America"? > > As a Christian and somewhat quasi-conservative, I must protest the > promulgation of this falsehood. Problem is not the "religious right", but > rather the erroneous perception of the religious right. There is no problem > with the daemon mascot. Nobody is out there refusing to consider BSD because > of its mascot The only time I have seen this issue brought up has been on > Slashdot, by a Linux advocate, or by someone who heard second hand from one > of the former. > > Nobody's complaining about the Arizona Sun Devils. No one's complaining > aobut Underwood Deviled Ham. And no one's complaining about the BSD daemon. > I'm a Christian and I don't have a problem with him. My Christian relatives > and friends don't have a problem with him. Including those that are rural > "hicks" from red states. > > Yes, I'm sure you can scrounge up a couple of old anecotes of people who > were offended or disturbed by Beastie. But I can counter each with ten of my Just search through the FreeBSD mail archives for numerous posts along the lines of "why do you have the Devil as your mascot" - I'd bet it runs into hundreds. My comments referred to a *small minority* of people, mainly Christian I guess, who've expressed concern/disgust/disapproval of it but isn't that always the way with everything, a small minority? Apologies if I've offended you, or anyone else, that wasn't the intent. FWIW, I'm Christian too and I don't have a problem with Beastie either. Mark --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0506-0, 08/02/2005 Tested on: 09/02/2005 22:21:47 avast! - copyright (c) 2000-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com