From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 1 00:35:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789C21065679 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 00:35:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from flat.berklix.org (flat.berklix.org [83.236.223.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA3E8FC29 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 00:35:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p549A6528.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.101.40]) (authenticated bits=0) by flat.berklix.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n610Z2PA019296; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 02:35:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n610Q6Ya026919; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 02:26:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n610Pdg2057882; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 02:25:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <200907010025.n610Pdg2057882@fire.js.berklix.net> To: rick-freebsd2008@kiwi-computer.com From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:47:15 CDT." <20090630214715.GB33849@keira.kiwi-computer.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:25:39 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: Joerg Schilling , freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cant burn a cd iso X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:35:08 -0000 Hi Rick Best re-read the thread from the beginning to avoid possible confusion. > What do you mean "by default"? sysutils/cdrtools is not part of the base > installation of FreeBSD, that's why it's a port. At some point down the > line you installed sysutils/cdrtools. I'm just suggesting that you should > have installed sysutils/cdrtools-devel instead. Original poster (installer) was Daniel, not Joerg. Joerg is author of architecture neutral cdrtools sources. > Yes, we all know your interpretation of the world "stable", which is not the > expected meaning that FreeBSD folks generally intend when they use that > term. Agreed. Joerg has an unusual use of the word stable, but then when he started using that usage of stable, he didnt need to conform to FreeBSD usage of word stable as: He was I think, a mostly Linux based developer of a cross platform source that also runs on *BSD. Even in FreeBSD, Stable only later came to mean the common English meaning of reliable, I remember several times people asserting all Stable meant was that the API (libs etc) avoided sudden changes like in current, didn't back then mean make world wouldnt break etc. > I suspect the port maintainer for cdrtools made > this assumption and choose "stability" over "possibly not tested as much". Marius is MAINTAINER= of 2/3 ports wrappers, & he wrote: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:21:01 +0200 Message-id: <20090629182101.GC12426@alchemy.franken.de> The main reason for still defaulting to cdrtools 2.01 is .... > It seemed like you were being demanding from people who are volunteering > their time. Joerg & Marius contributed time respectively writing cdrtools & wrappers. Thanks Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSD Unix Linux C Sys. Eng. Consultant Munich http://berklix.com Mail in plain ASCII text, HTML & Base64 are spam. http://asciiribbon.org