From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 22 11:49:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from xylan.com (postal.xylan.com [208.8.0.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24FD114E66; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:49:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from mailhub.xylan.com by xylan.com (8.8.7/SMI-SVR4 (xylan-mgw 2.2 [OUT])) id LAA22301; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omni.xylan.com by mailhub.xylan.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (mailhub 2.1 [HUB])) id LAA15722; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:47:00 -0700 Received: from softweyr.com (dyn2.utah.xylan.com) by omni.xylan.com (4.1/SMI-4.1 (xylan engr [SPOOL])) id AA15623; Thu, 22 Jul 99 11:47:43 PDT Message-Id: <3797674F.71098FA7@softweyr.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:47:43 -0600 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Dillon Cc: Len Conrad , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-advocates@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD: the stealth OS? References: <4.2.0.56.19990722155323.020b1a50@go2france.com> <199907221651.JAA83543@apollo.backplane.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matthew Dillon wrote: > > :Cool with the geeks beecause it's "unknown". > : > :http://www.msnbc.com/news/292376.asp > : > :Len > > I love the quote by Matthew Fuller at the end: > > "There's a lot of things that Linux is 'better' at, and a > lot of things FreeBSD is 'better' at, and a lot of those > things can easily fluctuate on a daily or weekly basis," > said Fuller, who maintains a Linux vs BSD Web page. > "Thus, any definitive narrow statement that can be made > is usually obsolete before anyone hears it.". I guess he didn't manage to get in touch with Terry. We spoke at length on Tuesday; I'm astonished how fast this came out. The writer was a DefCon for the first time; that was the first time HE had heard of BSD, and was relatively astonished to discover what a large and thriving community it is. I'd like to point out a quote from the March Daemon's Advocate at this point: ...the BSD community is just about reaching the size to be noted by the popular computing press, at least in the USA, and that what little they know of us is good. We must strive to keep this positive viewpoint. We're just finally starting to get our OWN press, where WE are the lead item and compared to Linux, rather than the other way around. This is helped by the fact that, as you can see in the MSNBC article, BSD users rarely claim that BSD is the solution to every problem on the planet, but rather just a good tool to solve problems that are commonly encountered. I am dissappointed he didn't include my plug for companies embedding BSD in products, though. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://softweyr.com/ wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message