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Date:      Thu, 30 Mar 2000 15:56:39 -0800 (PST)
From:      Doug Barton <Doug@gorean.org>
To:        John Daniel <john@cell-works.com>
Cc:        mlduke <mlduke@concentric.net>, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Information
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0003301549230.63063-100000@dt051n0b.san.rr.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.10003301706430.6740-100000@cell-works.com>

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On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, John Daniel wrote:

> Your solution Doug is more elegant ( I can tell because I wasn't entirely
> sure how it worked so it must be real elegant. :-) )

	Bah. :) 

> and requires you know something about how packages are installed and what
> is kept in the files in individual subdirectories of the packages.

	This is more to the point. I had actually prepared a more
comprehensive post that explained how ports almost always (like,
99%) install things in /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/sbin, or if it's an X
app, /usr/X11R6/bin... etc. But I sometimes get accused of "talking down
to the newbies," so I decided to go for brevity (or, as you say,
elegance). It seems that I can't make people happy no matter which way I
go with it. 

> you both gave me fodder for growth in freebsd.

	Which is the entire point of this list. IMO it's important to know
how ports get installed, where they get installed, and how to find
seemingly missing bits. If my post fostered interest on your part to
pursue it further, I've done my job. If all you ever do is remember that
one line and use it every 3 months to find something, I'm ok with that
too. 

	When I started using FreeBSD I had a HUGE file full of useful bits
that the "expert" users had mentioned in an e-mail somewhere. Often I just
used that information unvarnished, and then 3 months, 6 months, a year
later I hopefully came to a better understanding of what I was doing and
why. 

	The point, as you stated so elegantly (if I may borrow your
term) is that without discussion, none of us learn. 

Doug
-- 
    "So, the cows were part of a dream that dreamed itself into
existence? Is that possible?" asked the student incredulously.
    The master simply replied, "Mu."




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