From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Nov 30 11:27:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from soda.nextgig.com (nextgig-6.customer.nethere.net [209.132.102.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D429B37B41B for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:27:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from DMANESAJIAN († by soda.nextgig.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fAUJQmW29527; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:26:48 -0800 (PST) From: "Daniel Manesajian" To: "Leo Bicknell" , "Luigi Rizzo" Cc: Subject: RE: TCP Performance Graphs Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:31:15 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <20011130141100.B90969@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dude, the statement was that Luigi is in favor of _increasing_ the default size. How do you "extend his logic" to say it might as well be reduced to 4k? Please don't put words in people's mouths. Daniel "D-man" Manesajian > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Leo Bicknell > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 11:11 AM > To: Luigi Rizzo > Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: TCP Performance Graphs > > > On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 10:29:28AM -0800, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > It is not a big deal to move the default to 32 or 64k, and I'd > > vote for that, but if a sysadmin is unable to have a look at this, > > then the problem is in the sysadmin, not in FreeBSD! > > I disagree, on two points: > > * Many people use FreeBSD as a desktop OS. Think the same people > who use Win98, but only slightly smarter. These people are > 'sysadmins' only in the sense that they have a root password. > When FreeBSD can't fill their DSL line and Linux can, they will > switch to Linux never knowing what the real problem was. > > * Most sysadmins shouldn't be bothered with this. People running > news or IRC servers, or huge (100+ box) web farms might know > these tricks, but the guy who sets up a server to dump 100k/sec > average of web pages shouldn't be bothered. > > To extend your logic, we might as well make it default to 4k, since > that is the most resource conservative, and anyone who cares will > increase it. > > -- > Leo Bicknell - bicknell@ufp.org - CCIE 3440 > PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ > Read TMBG List - tmbg-list-request@tmbg.org, www.tmbg.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message