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Date:      Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:07:58 +0000
From:      "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net>
To:        "Benjamin Kaduk" <bjk@freebsd.org>
Cc:        "John Baldwin" <jhb@freebsd.org>, arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Ranting about OCF / crypto(9)
Message-ID:  <8C6BFBB0-3323-4DC8-BF23-B27D0235256D@lists.zabbadoz.net>
In-Reply-To: <20180111055620.GO72574@kduck.kaduk.org>
References:  <3790717.UIxaijsHl3@ralph.baldwin.cx> <20180111055620.GO72574@kduck.kaduk.org>

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On 11 Jan 2018, at 5:56, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:

>>   In terms of algorithms, I suspect there are some older algorithms
>>   we could drop.  Modern hardware doesn't offload DES for example.
>>   Both ccr(4) and aesni(4) only support AES for encryption.  We
>>   do need to keep algorithms required for IPSec in the kernel, but
>>   we could probably drop some others?
>
> Yes, it's probably time for DES to go.  Maybe others as well.

There sadly still is a lot of commercial gear out there that still
requires single-DES.


>> One concern with some of these changes is that there are several drivers
>> in the tree for older hardware that I'm not sure is really used anymore.
>> That is an impediment to making changes to the crypto <-> driver interface
>> if we can't find folks willing to at least test changes to those drivers
>> if not maintain them.
>
> That does seem like a relevant concern, as some of this stuff seems
> pretty obscure now.  I expect that some of it will have to go since
> no one can be found to test it.

I am sure I have old soekris boxes in use with a hifn(4) in them.

/bz



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