From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Oct 8 13:17:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7894237B502 for ; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 13:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA05229; Sun, 8 Oct 2000 15:17:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 15:17:05 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Dima Dorfman Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bugfixes, security fixes, versions Message-ID: <20001008151705.B4525@futuresouth.com> References: <20001007213929.C24996@futuresouth.com> <20001008075316.8D2D91F23@static.unixfreak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001008075316.8D2D91F23@static.unixfreak.org>; from dima@unixfreak.org on Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 12:53:16AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 12:53:16AM -0700, a little birdie told me that Dima Dorfman remarked > > Why not just use a date? I do this on most of my systems. My `uname > -r` reads: > > 4.1-20000916-STABLE > > I started doing this for the exact same reason you described above--to > know when I updated the system. It does clutter the `uname -a` output > a bit, so it could be done similar to the way you suggested with the > flag: "4.1-STABLE 20000916". > > Just a thought. And a good way of doing it too, if we were already. My thought was 'as long as we're changing it already, might as well make it foolproof'. With a date, you still have a little uncertainty because of lags between CVSup servers, what time of the day the fix was committed, etc. It's maybe 90% sure, but you just *KNOW* someone is gonna try to sue us or raise holy hell over that 10% when it happens to them. With tags per-fix in the version, we're pretty much 100% certain that the fix is or isn't in that specific system, outside of people muddying things up by screwing with stuff manually, in which case we can assume that they know what they're doing (or deserve what they get). -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Unix Systems Administrator | fullermd@futuresouth.com Specializing in FreeBSD | http://www.over-yonder.net/ "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message