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Date:      Tue, 20 Jul 2004 14:06:47 -0400 (EDT)
From:      "Steve Bertrand" <iaccounts@ibctech.ca>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   RE: Daily FreeBSD updates (was: Re: priority on rc script caused  panic)
Message-ID:  <4114.209.167.16.15.1090346807.squirrel@209.167.16.15>
In-Reply-To: <BAY22-F27EzEPAxJe8A000192c1@hotmail.com>
References:  <BAY22-F27EzEPAxJe8A000192c1@hotmail.com>

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>    >From: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@freebsd.org>
>    >To: pura life CR <puralifecr@hotmail.com>
>    >CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>    >Subject: Daily FreeBSD updates (was: Re: priority on rc script caused
>    panic)
>    >Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:57:24 +0300
>    >
>    >On 2004-07-19 10:58, pura life CR <puralifecr@hotmail.com> wrote:
>    > >Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@freebsd.org> wrote:
>    > >> I regularly (almost daily) upgrade my CURRENT installation and
>    the
>    > >> set of commands I use when the single user shell fires up is:
>    > >>
>    > >> adjkerntz -i # allow system time updates to work
>    > >> swapon -a # enable all swap partitions
>    > >> fsck -p # check any filesystems that need it
>    > >> mount -u / # remount root fs as read-write
>    > >> mount /usr # mount /usr as read-write
>    > >>
>    > >> cd /usr/src # upgrade sequence
>    > >> make installworld #      - // -
>    > >> mergemaster #      - // -
>    > >
>    > > This should not be done.
>    > >
>    > > You dont really need to upgrade daily, you are just overloading
>    freebsd
>    > > cvsup servers.
>    >
>    >That's not true...
>    >
>    >I'm running FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT.  Keeping a local CVS mirror which is
>    >updated once a day and test build/run on my machine is the least I
>    can
>    >do to help in testing the -CURRENT branch.  The mirror I use is the
>    one
>    >that is closest to me (cvsup2.gr.freebsd.org).
>
>    [snip]
>
>    My comment is still applicable. If you just run a  cvs mirror,
>    just fetch the source code. You dont need to test to know whether if
>    compiles or not. I think noone really helps to freebsd by compiling
>    the source code every day looking for errors.

Maybe I'm way off here because I do not do any such testing as Giorgos
suggests, but how are the developers supposed to supply patches for
problems if -CURRENT builds are in fact not built, and build-errors not
found?

I would think that it would be easier to mirror the tree, and build
daily/weekly etc to find build errors than it would be to review the
source code line-for-line to find the bugs.

> It is better to test and
>    contribute code.

How do you suggest testing without building? I believe that Giorgos is
suggesting that *is* what he is doing...building, locating bugs, fixing
(contributing/committing code).

Could someone with more experience clarify this? This is quite a confusing
thread.

Steve


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