From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 31 08:50:45 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F11C16A41F for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:50:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5015643D48 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:50:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3498C1A3C25; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 00:50:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 70FF3512CE; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 03:50:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 03:50:44 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Danny Braniss Message-ID: <20051031085044.GA79715@xor.obsecurity.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: GENERIC and DEFAULTS X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 08:50:45 -0000 --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 10:46:37AM +0200, Danny Braniss wrote: >=20 > > You've clearly never spent much time on the FreeBSD support forums, > > where every few days someone posts for help > >=20 > > 1) with an error caused by removing one of those "Do not remove this!" > > lines, and > >=20 > > 2) for help on getting X working when they forgot to add /dev/io and > > /dev/mem to their kernel. > >=20 > > Those of us who spend a lot of time answering such questions will > > surely welcome the change, since it will hopefully reduce our > > workload. > >=20 > I understand - and appreciate, your problem. I still think that > the solution is wrong. I'm now checking, since it seems that io and > mem are loadable modules, that maybe the X start, or rc.d will make sure > that these modules are loaded? So that if someone who removes them from t= he > MYKERNCONF is still protected? Many users who build custom kernels do not build modules, since they want to compile everything they (think they) need into the kernel statically. Kris --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDZdrjWry0BWjoQKURAjfvAKCOLDlNpvuz5CnDucLOyrmVw5GkPQCgjEJW KqsEbM4Xf8XE+Ip5Am3NHLY= =qoDc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr--