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Date:      Wed, 31 Jan 1996 12:44:09 -0700
From:      Nate Williams <nate@sri.MT.net>
To:        Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>
Cc:        phk@critter.tfs.com (Poul-Henning Kamp), joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: a question about boot-manager
Message-ID:  <199601311944.MAA16488@rocky.sri.MT.net>
In-Reply-To: <199601311839.LAA10213@phaeton.artisoft.com>
References:  <4449.823082602@critter.tfs.com> <199601311839.LAA10213@phaeton.artisoft.com>

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> > And who but Terry would care about optimizing something like bad144
> > anyway ???
> 
> Hello... 1024 cylinder limit... hello... old hardware... hello...
> 
> 1)	Anyone who is forced to use BAD144 on non-translated disks;
> 	all of the AT&T 6386/33E systems that went to universities
> 	on their educational grant program have 300M untranslated
> 	ESDI drives.

I doubt many sites outside of Weber have this problem.

> 2)	Anyone who is using an EIDE controller that doesn't support
> 	sector sparing in hardware instead of BIOS and wants to
> 	install FreeBSD near the end of the disk, either by using
> 	FIPS on the existing single DOS partition, or by replacing
> 	one or more extended partitions and/or Linux.

Are they *any* IDE/EIDE drives which don't do sector sparing?  Isn't it
part of the spec?

> 3)	Anyone who has sector sparing off on their SCSI drives so they
> 	can use spindle-sync with a ccd driver without losing rotations,
> 	so they have to substitute BAD144 or similar software sparing.

I doubt many folks who go throught the hassle of bad144 to get a few
percentage points.  It's cheaper to buy faster disks. :)

> I can think of serveral more rather esoteric applications.

> I do know that #1 in my list has personally bit me both at WSU and
> the UofU during FreeBSD installs (both were recipients of AT&T
> educational grants and now have a lot of old hardware).

Hmm, maybe it's a Utah thing, but none of the computers in the Montana
University system have ESDI disks anymore. :)


Nate




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