From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 2 22:03:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73DC5106566B for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:03:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AAA78FC1C for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:03:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n52M36ap045355; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 00:03:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n52M36tZ045352; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 00:03:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 00:03:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Erik Osterholm In-Reply-To: <20090602215339.GA86750@barragry.com> Message-ID: References: <4688025620918128507458768288443306245-Webmail@me.com> <20090602215339.GA86750@barragry.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:03:19 -0000 >> ... >> Even at first post i wrote that i'm not FreeBSD owners and they will >> decide. > > We're all human. The potential sponsors might have missed the line > where you said that you were not an owner. this way - nobody should write anyone. there is always a line that missed - completely changes a sense of sentence. > > Just as you missed the bit where they were interested in monthly > contributions. yes. > > >> Do you really mean i have enough power to just dumb any sponsors >> (potential, not "potential") by writing a post on public mailing >> list? > > Any person might look at people in the community and decide that they > don't want to be a part of that community after all. That's why it > would be nice if everyone could be courteous and helpful. > > I'm not specifically referring to you, Mr. Puchar. I'm talking about > the general case. You are right. But do you try to say that we should think about consequences for potential sponsoring every word we say?! Is FreeBSD FREE SOFTWARE or commercial product that's selling some way? If first - then we should not care how much more/less money people will pay as a gift every time we post. If second - then please Owners declare it clearly and just add statement about this. Anyway - Do users of any commercial product support list must think if their words will lower the selling of the product? i don't think so. But if i'm not right - please add on FreeBSD webpage/mailing list info "Every sentence that can potentially lower the income or core team are punished with 10 lashes. Erik Osterholm will be the executor".