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Date:      Wed, 7 Jul 2021 19:11:59 -0700
From:      Mark Millard via freebsd-ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>
To:        bob prohaska <fbsd@www.zefox.net>
Cc:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Too many pythons in poudriere
Message-ID:  <CDDBF956-9647-464C-9114-CB1021C14699@yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <044A7E63-2734-41F4-A1A2-AE5096C6A62C@yahoo.com>
References:  <044A7E63-2734-41F4-A1A2-AE5096C6A62C@yahoo.com>

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On 2021-Jul-7, at 19:04, Mark Millard <marklmi at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: bob prohaska <fbsd_at_www.zefox.net> wrote on
> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2021 14:53:20 -0700 :
>=20
>> In trying to compile www/chromium under poudriere on a Pi3 there
>> comes a point when five python2.7 sessions totaling more than 2 GB
>> in size are running at once.

I should have orignially noted right here that such is
because of the use of: ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS=3Dyes

You need to avoid that for the www/chromium build.

>> Obviously, swap is swamped and the Pi3
>> is running at a crawl. It hasn't givem up, however.
>>=20
>> Poudriere was started with -J 2 and make is limited to 2 jobs.=20
>> Is there an analogous limit to how many pythons are loosed at
>> once? It looks like there's only one builder, so it isn't
>> obvious that -J 1 would help; I'll try it if this job stops
>> prematurely.
>=20
> It will not help. There were no competing build jobs.
>=20
>> Progress, such as it is, can be seen at
>>=20
>> =
http://www.zefox.org/~bob/poudriere/data/logs/bulk/main-default/2021-07-05=
_14h06m26s/build.html
>=20
> By the time I looked it had run out of swap space:
>=20
> Swapinfo 100.00%
>=20
> and had stopped for build/timeout after 50:33:26 .
>=20
> For reference, including "swap_pager: out of swap space"
> and "swp_pager_getswapspace(1): failed":
>=20
> QUOTE
>=20
> Wed Jul  7 15:20:34 PDT 2021
> Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
> /dev/da0s2b       1843200  1831744    11456    99%
> /dev/mmcsd0s2b    1843200  1832328    10872    99%
> Total             3686400  3664072    22328    99%
> . . .
> Wed Jul  7 15:20:46 PDT 2021
> Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
> /dev/da0s2b       1843200  1838356     4844   100%
> /dev/mmcsd0s2b    1843200  1838928     4272   100%
> Total             3686400  3677284     9116   100%
> . . .
> Wed Jul  7 15:20:56 PDT 2021
> Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
> /dev/da0s2b       1843200  1841260     1940   100%
> /dev/mmcsd0s2b    1843200  1841836     1364   100%
> Total             3686400  3683096     3304   100%
> . . .
> Wed Jul  7 15:21:08 PDT 2021
> Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
> /dev/da0s2b       1843200  1843000      200   100%
> /dev/mmcsd0s2b    1843200  1843124       76   100%
> Total             3686400  3686124      276   100%
> . . .
> Jul  7 15:20:58 www kernel: swap_pager: out of swap space
> . . .
> Wed Jul  7 15:21:20 PDT 2021
> Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
> /dev/da0s2b       1843200  1843128       72   100%
> /dev/mmcsd0s2b    1843200  1843140       60   100%
> Total             3686400  3686268      132   100%
> . . .
> Jul  7 15:20:58 www kernel: swap_pager: out of swap space
> . . .
> Wed Jul  7 15:21:30 PDT 2021
> Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
> /dev/da0s2b       1843200  1843160       40   100%
> /dev/mmcsd0s2b    1843200  1843116       84   100%
> Total             3686400  3686276      124   100%
> . . .
> Jul  7 15:20:58 www kernel: swap_pager: out of swap space
> . . .
> Wed Jul  7 15:21:45 PDT 2021
> Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
> /dev/da0s2b       1843200  1843192        8   100%
> /dev/mmcsd0s2b    1843200  1843192        8   100%
> Total             3686400  3686384       16   100%
> Jul  7 15:20:58 www kernel: swap_pager: out of swap space
> Jul  7 15:21:33 www kernel: swp_pager_getswapspace(3): failed
> . . .
> Wed Jul  7 15:22:05 PDT 2021
> Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
> /dev/da0s2b       1843200  1843192        8   100%
> /dev/mmcsd0s2b    1843200  1843192        8   100%
> Total             3686400  3686384       16   100%
> Jul  7 15:20:58 www kernel: swap_pager: out of swap space
> Jul  7 15:21:33 www kernel: swp_pager_getswapspace(3): failed
> . . .
> Wed Jul  7 15:48:46 PDT 2021
> Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
> /dev/da0s2b       1843200  1843192        8   100%
> /dev/mmcsd0s2b    1843200  1843192        8   100%
> Total             3686400  3686384       16   100%
> Jul  7 15:21:33 www kernel: swp_pager_getswapspace(3): failed
> Jul  7 15:48:44 www kernel: swp_pager_getswapspace(1): failed
> . . .
> Wed Jul  7 15:57:01 PDT 2021
> Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
> /dev/da0s2b       1843200  1843192        8   100%
> /dev/mmcsd0s2b    1843200  1843192        8   100%
> Total             3686400  3686384       16   100%
> Jul  7 15:21:33 www kernel: swp_pager_getswapspace(3): failed
> Jul  7 15:48:44 www kernel: swp_pager_getswapspace(1): failed
> . . .
> Wed Jul  7 15:57:21 PDT 2021
> Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
> /dev/da0s2b       1843200  1843192        8   100%
> /dev/mmcsd0s2b    1843200  1843192        8   100%
> Total             3686400  3686384       16   100%
> Jul  7 15:21:33 www kernel: swp_pager_getswapspace(3): failed
> Jul  7 15:48:44 www kernel: swp_pager_getswapspace(1): failed
> . . .
> Wed Jul  7 16:31:52 PDT 2021
> Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
> /dev/da0s2b       1843200  1843192        8   100%
> /dev/mmcsd0s2b    1843200  1843192        8   100%
> Total             3686400  3686384       16   100%
> Jul  7 15:48:44 www kernel: swp_pager_getswapspace(1): failed
> Jul  7 16:13:16 www kernel: swp_pager_getswapspace(3): failed
> . . .
> Wed Jul  7 17:47:11 PDT 2021
> Device          1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity
> /dev/da0s2b       1843200    32696  1810504     2%
> /dev/mmcsd0s2b    1843200    33572  1809628     2%
> Total             3686400    66268  3620132     2%
>=20
> END QUOTE
>=20
> It looks like for the configuration as it is, the
> bulk build needs to build such that the load
> average stays near 1 or less, avoiding near 2 or
> more: no use of ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS=3Dyes during the bulk
> build is one way to do that.
>=20
> In http://www.zefox.org/~bob/poudriere.conf (modified
> for illustration):
>=20
> # By default MAKE_JOBS is disabled to allow only one process per cpu
> # Use the following to allow it anyway
> #ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS=3Dyes
> # List of packages that will always be allowed to use MAKE_JOBS
> # regardless of ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS. This is useful for allowing ports
> # which holdup the rest of the queue to build more quickly.
> #ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS_PACKAGES=3D"pkg ccache py*"
>=20
> I'll also note that:
>=20
> http://www.zefox.org/~bob/poudriere.d/make.conf
>=20
> should not ever have the "ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS=3Dyes" that
> is does: it is the wrong symbol for that kind of
> context. poudriere converts ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS to something
> else used in make.
>=20
> QUOTE (not modified for illustration)
> ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS=3Dyes
> MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER=3D2
> #.if ${.CURDIR:M*www/chromium}
> #MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER_LIMIT=3D2
> #.endif
> #.if ${.CURDIR:M*databases/sqlite3}
> #MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER_LIMIT=3D2
> #.endif
> #.if ${.CURDIR:M*www/firefox}
> #MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER_LIMIT=3D2
> #.endif
> END QUOTE
>=20
>=20
>>=20
>> The last time www/chromium was compiled (using make) on this machine=20=

>> I don't remember seeing such a python jam. If it happened at all the=20=

>> Pi3 worked through it faster than presently.=20
>=20
> Which was the old make: -j1 vs. -j2 vs. -j3 vs. -j4 ?
>=20
> The ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS=3Dyes use is like -j4 in your 4 core
> context. Lack of ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS=3Dyes is like -j1 .
>=20
> The -jN is for the number of make processes allowed to be
> active per builder, including when there is only one builder.
>=20
> The ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS=3Dyes meant that there was likely a massive
> amount of paging activity that was taking up much of the
> time. That would still have been true with a much lager
> swap space: it is a type of context where Lack of
> ALLOW_MAKE_JOBS=3Dyes may well take notably less time to
> finish.



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Mark Millard
marklmi at yahoo.com
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