From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jul 6 9:32: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bbnrel4.net.external.hp.com (bbnrel4.net.external.hp.com [155.208.254.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D6637C475 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:32:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@sse0691.bri.hp.com) Received: from hpcpbla.bri.hp.com (hpcpbla.bri.hp.com [15.144.112.65]) by bbnrel4.net.external.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EABAEECCA; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 18:31:58 +0200 (METDST) Received: from sse0691.bri.hp.com (sse0691.bri.hp.com [15.144.0.53]) by hpcpbla.bri.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.0) with ESMTP id RAA15515; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:31:57 +0100 (BST) Received: (from steve@localhost) by sse0691.bri.hp.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA03649; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:34:14 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:34:14 +0100 From: Steve Roome To: David Scheidt Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now Message-ID: <20000706173414.D1802@moose.bri.hp.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from dscheidt@enteract.com on Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 11:16:05AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 11:16:05AM -0500, David Scheidt wrote: > On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Linh Pham wrote: > > :> > :> Can we have little green "[ OK ]"s as well? :) > :> > :> j/k > : > :I hope you are joking... LOL... We don't want Linux emulation to go in > :that direction. > > > HP/UX does something like this. I find it rather useful, but that may be > because I have boxes that take almost an hour to boot.... It's a general SYSVism I think, but on the whole I find it to be a pain, most of the things that happen at startup (on my HP-UX boxes) could happen in the background, but because someone has made them all sequential, so that they can all put ok's or not ok's on the screen it means that after the 15 odd minutes of hardware testing that these machines do on bootup I then have to wait another 10 minutes until it's really started, and the same again when I want to shutdown. The problem with that of course, is that I end up just calling reboot, rather than bothering to wait for the shutdown - which is probably not what should be encouraged. I'd hate to see FreeBSD go the same way, it's nice to have the information available, but having a lot of sequential startup/shutdown scripts is a pain - and when say SNMP (early starter/stopper) hangs, the box won't boot or shutdown until someone kills off that process, which might involve a walk to the machine room. It's a pain, and seems to be just there to look nice. (IMHO) Unless someone wants to do the same sort of system, but one that runs in parallel - that I'd like. Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message