From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Sat Feb 15 01:04:09 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8949248E53 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 01:04:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from smtp-out-so.shaw.ca (smtp-out-so.shaw.ca [64.59.136.139]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48KBpc5WrKz4XHQ; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 01:04:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([70.67.125.17]) by shaw.ca with ESMTPA id 2lsKjpJn0RnrK2lsLjZ8cu; Fri, 14 Feb 2020 18:04:06 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=L7FjvNb8 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:117 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=l697ptgUJYAA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=8kpUjx5iP4ZCMYiC7DwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=qa9l8WszXaMA:10 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy8 [10.2.2.6]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17C8E344; Fri, 14 Feb 2020 17:04:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 01F142IG063965; Fri, 14 Feb 2020 17:04:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from slippy (cy@localhost) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 01F142eE063954; Fri, 14 Feb 2020 17:04:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Message-Id: <202002150104.01F142eE063954@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Authentication-Warning: slippy.cwsent.com: cy owned process doing -bs X-Mailer: exmh version 2.9.0 11/07/2018 with nmh-1.7.1 Reply-to: Cy Schubert From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.cschubert.com/ To: Oliver Pinter cc: Kyle Evans , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Return of config files to ^/etc In-reply-to: References: Comments: In-reply-to Oliver Pinter message dated "Sat, 15 Feb 2020 01:22:57 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 17:04:02 -0800 X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfEVua8a/wSo5Uzx2WFx7Nxnl0tqWUwBWLvSOWAG3z35l8ehqcA4xva5QcJWhkJNigy97yYBLCqMhExoyjLhQ0bW9+y4w5xfdFupK01SSdDYOS55+yvno yXsXFKY+ecWn5nHZs2KRPnO5Ex2xQFtMGoZHB07WY1TMKQt42iGm+dgSzij1t/cb7ETyhEsspHpLxM00QwWieuNLstlXgMlqhjU= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48KBpc5WrKz4XHQ X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of cy.schubert@cschubert.com has no SPF policy when checking 64.59.136.139) smtp.mailfrom=cy.schubert@cschubert.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.07 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[17.125.67.70.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.11]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[139.136.59.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6327, ipnet:64.59.128.0/20, country:CA]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.37)[ip: (-6.05), ipnet: 64.59.128.0/20(-3.22), asn: 6327(-2.51), country: CA(-0.09)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2020 01:04:09 -0000 In message , Oliver Pinter writes: > On Friday, February 14, 2020, Kyle Evans wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I've organized a review[0] to return most config files back to etc/. > > Many people were concerned about the mass exodus of etc/, and many > > have expressed a desire (privately or otherwise) for these files to > > return- some of these folks represent downstreams or consumer projects > > that went through the painful move the first time and would happily go > > through the pain again to restore the status quo. > > > > This does mean that we'd end up with a structure that's not compatible > > with stable/12, but is compatible with every branch before it. > > > > If you have an opinion for or against. please speak up now. I'd like > > to make sure we're moving in the correct direction as a developer > > community. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Kyle Evans > > > > [0] https://reviews.freebsd.org/D23690 > > > A very big yes. Please do it. > It would be more straightforward and more backward compatible because the > FreeBSD's repo is a monorepo. > > As far I remember, there was an mess around the password and groups file > depending on the "default" shell. A sed magic or other black magic... Agreed. I was never enamoured with the move. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.