From owner-freebsd-net Tue Jan 2 9:17:32 2001 From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 2 09:17:30 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from homer.softweyr.com (bsdconspiracy.net [208.187.122.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C6337B400 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 09:17:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=softweyr.com ident=Fools trust ident!) by homer.softweyr.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14DV9f-0000AD-00; Tue, 02 Jan 2001 10:23:23 -0700 Sender: wes@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3A520E8B.50AC9CEE@softweyr.com> Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 10:23:23 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "C. Stephen Gunn" Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with VLAN and natd. References: <200101020501.AAA58976@tsunami.waterspout.com> <3A517429.91B2F251@softweyr.com> <20010102111109.B7610@waterspout.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "C. Stephen Gunn" wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 11:24:41PM -0700, Wes Peters wrote: > > > > I'm afraid to even contemplate the POLA and backward compatability > > > issues involved. > > > > Why would we need to violate POLA? The obvious default would be to > > extend ifconfig to configure the new protocol types, and to assume > > EthII framing unless explicitly specified. > > Well.. It's a change to ifconfig for normal interface configuraton. No, what I'm saying is that ifconfig would look exactly like it does now for standard IP-over-EthII and for vlan id, and would be extended to handle other configurations not currently supported like SNAP, or SNAP + VLAN. > I also wasn't aware that ifconfig handles netgraph node creation, > I thought you (currently) used ngctl or libnetgraph for that. It doesn't now, but it's only software. > > Perhaps so. If someone does the work to move EthII into netgraph, I can > > certainly contribute a SNAP/LLC module, and maybe even extensions to > > ifconfig so you can use it. ;^) > > If we continue to dicuss this, and this is the correct direction to > head, I'd volunteer to take a first-pass at the code. That would be great, but this we should certainly move to -arch. Personally I don't have any problems with gutting the network interfaces and moving all MAC-layer protocols into netgraph nodes, but others might react violently. With this group, you can never tell. ;^) -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message