From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 6 08:47:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E08F16A4CE; Mon, 6 Sep 2004 08:47:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from phoenix.infradead.org (imladris.demon.co.uk [193.237.130.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB0B43D48; Mon, 6 Sep 2004 08:47:27 +0000 (GMT) SRS0+3b5aba12a0c273db2f6f+379+infradead.org+hch@phoenix.srs.infradead.org) Received: from hch by phoenix.infradead.org with local (Exim 4.30 #5 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1C4F9p-000173-32; Mon, 06 Sep 2004 09:47:25 +0100 Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 09:47:24 +0100 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Robert Watson Message-ID: <20040906094724.A4262@infradead.org> References: <200409042056.i84Kudsk021327@cello.qnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from rwatson@freebsd.org on Sun, Sep 05, 2004 at 07:31:54PM -0400 X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by phoenix.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html cc: Paul Smith cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Microkernel Performance: FreeBSD versus Darwin X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 08:47:28 -0000 On Sun, Sep 05, 2004 at 07:31:54PM -0400, Robert Watson wrote: > > On Sat, 4 Sep 2004, Paul Smith wrote: > > > Theoretically the microkernel of Darwin should create overheads harming > > the performance. Has anybody seen an actual study comparing the > > performance of Darwin and FreeBSD? > > FYI, Darwin doesn't use a microkernel. It includes code elements from > Mach, which did use a microkernel, but those elements are integrated into > the same address space as the remainder of the kernel (file system, > network stack, etc). I'm not sure I've seen any performance studies, > regardless. http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-ydlg5.html?ca=dgr-mw05LinxOnG5 has some microbenchmarks for darwin vs linux