Date: Sat, 2 May 2020 08:45:23 +0200 From: Christoph Kukulies <kuku@kukulies.org> To: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: Yuri Pankov <ypankov@fastmail.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VirtualBox binary not existing Message-ID: <34C391B6-77E3-4178-95FD-670C5890B233@kukulies.org> In-Reply-To: <20200502063724.6bebfa09.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <FC3D3CCF-609E-4E0A-B766-CF83ED1F91F4@kukulies.org> <c909fcb0-b36f-0ad6-a29e-6fb1ba25e9a0@fastmail.com> <2EB69D33-65A6-4818-A74E-0DA8605C6516@kukulies.org> <20200502063724.6bebfa09.freebsd@edvax.de>
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> Am 02.05.2020 um 06:37 schrieb Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>: > > On Fri, 1 May 2020 18:09:53 +0200, Christoph Kukulies wrote: >> I was used to use sh (Bourne sh) under root 21 years ago. So I >> switched it back from csh to sh. >> Wondering why they switched to csh anyway. It is a tastelessness. ;) > > On FreeBSD, the C shell has been the default dialog shell > for all users, even for root, at least since 4.0. The > Bourne shell (equivalent on FreeBSD: ash) is only used > for two purposes by default: > > a) in single-user mode, and > > b) for scripting. > > I wonder _why_ your root account has been switched from > using csh to sh as dialog shell... that's not the default Me did it :) > setting... Just for fun I recently installed FreeBSD 4.5 Probably it was before 4.0 (got to dig out a FreeBSD 2.0 CD, or a set of 386BSD diskettes :) > (what a convenient and flawless experience, compared to, > okay, I will shut up right away), and root's shell is the > C shell. Per default. > > However, I fully agree that the C shell is very selective > in which users it attracts. I'm using it for dialog work, > since 4.0, and I even _prefer_ it over bash in a very few > aspects. However, for developing one-liners that could > grow into real scripts, I use bash (better dialog behaviour > than sh). Decades ago, I even wrote one (as a number: 1) > script in C shell, and I really can not recommend following > my example. ;-) > > The only thing I do in plain sh is starting csh or bash. > I also use zsh and ksh from time to time on other systems, > so I get a good impression at "who is good with what". > > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, …— — Christoph
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