From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 31 21:59:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 678DDB4A for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 21:59:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@missouri.edu) Received: from wilberforce.math.missouri.edu (wilberforce.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271CA8FC0C for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 21:59:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (wilberforce.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.213]) by wilberforce.math.missouri.edu (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id qBVLx25m070456 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:59:03 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from stephen@missouri.edu) Message-ID: <50E20AA6.9070407@missouri.edu> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:59:02 -0600 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Does / Is anyone maintaining CVS for FreeBSD? References: <50E1D012.1040004@missouri.edu> <20121231175808.GA1399@glenbarber.us> <6817fb4c15659b194cc658b1dfa58a31.authenticated@ultimatedns.net> <50E2063A.9070706@mu.org> In-Reply-To: <50E2063A.9070706@mu.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 21:59:05 -0000 On 12/31/2012 03:40 PM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > On 12/31/12 12:40 PM, Chris H wrote: >> | I'm sorry, but the exporter scripts were always a stopgap. >> That's what I was afraid I would hear. Recently, I was informed by >> SF.NET, >> that my account would be upgraded, and all the projects I have, which all >> use CVS, would be "upgraded" to SVN (which renders them useless). When I >> asked why, they told me because CVS was so old. To which I stated: >> Indeed, CVS is _quite_ old, and so is TCP/IP. Yet no one can seem live >> without it. >> Sigh... >> IM(NS)HO; SVN is an inferior RCS created so Windows users wouldn't feel >> left out. >> Are there _any_ CVS servers/trunks/tree's left? If so, how _current_ are >> they? >> >> Thanks again for taking the time to reply, Chris. >> >> All the best. >> > You still really haven't come forward with a concrete reason besides "my > workflow" and "my scripts". > > Svn is a *near* drop in replacement for CVS. > > If instead of complaining and taking up bandwidth on the lists about old > tech, you instead asked about how to move your archaic setup forward > then someone would likely step forward and lend you a hand. > > The project's goal is to support a large user base and the developers in > a manner that works with our resources. Supporting CVS (a 2nd gen VCS) > while we have been on a 3rd gen (svn) and are finally looking into a 4th > gen (git) is just unfair. > > If you took a few minutes you'd fine the svn command set intuitive and a > simple switch over from CVS. The reason I asked the original question about docs disappearing from cvs is because I maintain the CTM delivery system. I am in the process of switching CTM from cvs to svn, and IM(NS)HO svn is much, much nicer than cvs or cvsup. I am really looking forward to not having to deal with cvs any more. Give svn a try. My guess is that you will find it easier to work with than you expect. Stephen