From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 09:46:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F090116A418 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 09:46:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FBBE13C458 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 09:46:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lB99YIDH004624; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 01:34:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id lB99YHRm004623; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 01:34:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 01:34:17 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Predrag Punosevac Message-ID: <20071209093417.GA4442@thought.org> References: <20071208210331.GA1241@thought.org> <475B0A21.5000708@math.arizona.edu> <20071208215715.GA1543@thought.org> <475B5710.1040403@math.arizona.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <475B5710.1040403@math.arizona.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: Gary Kline , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 09:46:42 -0000 On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 07:46:40PM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > >On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 02:18:25PM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: > > > >>Gary Kline wrote: > >> > >>> Folks, > >>> > >>> IFF k3b works, and I think it might, I'll put up a howto > >>> on my bsd virtual site. Make this domain more useful. > >>> The help from this group has been outstanding, but getting things > >>> CD and DVD actually working has been a study in persseverancce. > >>> > >>> That said, first,if there is a website for total dweebs, please > >>> post it; or send it privately. I just bought some "Memorex > >>> DVD+RW" ; I want to record a 117 minute commercial DVD. > >>> On the back on the DVDs is says these are only good for 60 minutes > >>> in great qualty; it is good up to 120 minutes, and so on. > >>> Nutshell: how good will k3b and my Pioneer burner do on dubbing > >>> this professioally recorded disc? Also, Does thw "RW" mean tthat > >>> I can re-tape over this with another edu DVD? > >>> > >>> gary > >>> > >>> PS: I much prefer analogue cassettes; I've been taping stuff > >>> since I taped "American Bandstand" off the TV :-) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>I wrote K3b how to > >>http://www.bsd-srbija.org/dokumentacija/doku.php/rezanje_cd_i_dvd_diskova_pomo%C4%87u_k3b > >>but you will need little bit of Serbian language to read it. > >> > > > > > > Actually, my best friend for > 30 years comes from [ what was ] > > Yugoslavia; so he could surely help me with the translation. > > > > I think I have the k3b stuff actually workinng. As of late FFriday > > night, k3b ran thru all of its tests. That wasn't my question. > > I want to know > > more about what DVD blanks are good,better,best, and whether it is > > worth "wasting" a blank DVD in trying to copy a DVD that I borrowed > > from the library. > > > > I've googled arouund, tryiiing to get some kind of specs that an > > EE can understand ... even if he kknows nothing about figital > > video. > > > > > I think that duplicating DVDs works like a charm on FreeBSD but I think > there is a better software in ports for that of K3b which is > kind a all in one generic GUI application. This is also a useful link > http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html if you are trying to > understand DVD business. There are definitely people on this mailing > list or on OpenBSD mailing list (I do not remember any more as I am on > both mailing lists) who have fantastic knowledge of DVD writable medias, > proprietary Video Formats and various issues that come with that including > the issues of regional coding and by that I do not mean just USA vs > Europe or Asia. Even inside of U. S. where I have being g living for the > past 12 years there are many different regional formats. I am clueless > about it. > Hm. There is a new protocol, DVD-ROM (or perhaps it was DVD-CDROM); so if there are even *more*, I'd be spinning my wheel s, trying to figure this stuff out in any depth. > As a mathematician I am probably much less capable of understanding DVD > technical issues than you. > Isn't it more a matter of personal interest and time? I love math --and several other fields as well--but given the limitations we all have, learning sufficiently well (not to mention keeping-current:-), should give everyone pause. --Then there is the matter of living Life, and blah-blah-blah. Re the DVD stuff, I'd be happy to know some of the boundary conditions. And more practice and testing than theory. > To be perfectly honest as a professional mathematician I am very > concern with the status of TeX port and the fact that two years after > teTeX was abolished by TeX community in favor of TeXLive there are no > even indication that the TeXLive will be ported to FreeBSD. Even in the > most crude form (4 packages) as it is done in OpenBSD would be better > than noting. Of course the Debian way (30 or so packages) would be my > preferable way as TeXLive is developing really rapidly in some areas. > My knowledge of porting is unfortunately inadequate to be able to help > with such a major project. > teTeX is dead? After I met Don Knuth I really got into his stuff. But then, as mentioned above, LIFE hit me over the head, &c. FWIW, Someone friom the OOo list posted a math site a couple days ago. The site deals with some of the things that may interest you. I'll find it--this one I moused and clicked nd snagged. Or then again, if DEbian has the new TeX packages, our FBSD Linux support would do. ... . ciao, gary > > Cheers, > Predrag > > > > > > > > thanks for your email; it was one of the postings that helped me > > get atapicam stuff *working* > > > > :-) > > > > gary > > > > > > > >>Actually probably you could follow article even if you do not speak > >>Serbian as the language is generic and there are only three important > >>steps you need to do. > >> > >>Step 1 Editing your /boot/loader.conf file with > >> > >>atapicam_load="YES" > >>hw.ata.ata_dma="1" > >>hw.ata.atapi_dma="1" > >> > >>since FreeBSD is using atapicam device to write DVD > >> > >> > >>Step 2 Edit your /etc/devfs.conf with various permission. Most of those > >>are needed for a work station anyway > >> > >>perm /dev/acd0 0666 > >>perm /dev/cd0 0666 > >> > >># Commonly used by many ports > >> > >>link cd0 cdrom > >>link cd0 dvd > >>link cd0 rdvd > >> > >>link acd0 cdrom > >>link acd0 dvd > >>link acd0 rdvd > >> > >># Misc other devices > >> > >>perm cdrom 0666 > >>perm dvd 0666 > >>perm rdvd 0666 > >>perm xpt0 0666 > >>perm pass0 0666 > >> > >> > >>Step 3 Edit your /etc/fstab file if you want to use K3b as a normal user > >>since the disk has to be mounted on the mount point which belong to you > >> > >> > >>[pedja@ /usr/home/Pedja]$ more /etc/fstab > >>#These are my options > >>/dev/cd0 /usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660 rw, noauto 0 0 > >>/dev/acd0 /usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660 rw, noauto 0 0 > >> > >> > >> > >>You do not need HAL for things to work but is not going to heart. > >> > >> > >>Also read > >> > >>make showinfo /usr/ports/sysutils/k3b > >> > >>Best, > >>Predrag > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org