From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 15 16:16:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB3E10656C3 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:16:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f167.google.com (mail-fx0-f167.google.com [209.85.220.167]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A49CB8FC16 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:16:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by fxm11 with SMTP id 11so3040736fxm.43 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 09:16:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=v6Hr9/h9KKSuoHqrtvVkPEYskZV2M4PunhQCe3sKwho=; b=XIpUyCatVDZifcc4QfPodsafXeL5IJZaLNnmH1FJ4sXRH+BZh2c+dU2YGZayla5sic aM7nIrVGnJgL4D7297h+C14QZZBWw0yl7ESx/zChJwflOz807A70MHTEIqscWuPWyuH7 p+AF8eAyPjxWZkZRwyEoG8qO2UiJbxDYefcpE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DL//dBETHEfNjkW9a4ALztJq7sV258wg7vcoAFbwaq0XifeYZpLkUuUj6/U/oNu16M DqnS4QAPoZpflaaVXvcWt8JKI0nSHvErAoG7WWonfRN4GUldh1jzFT7+7Z35PpicwqS7 k0pHAzTJq1Flqz3yX0v6WTbPFfMNmVyF+fy+8= Received: by 10.103.225.11 with SMTP id c11mr253242mur.24.1239812164801; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 09:16:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4488268.home.otenet.gr [94.71.72.84]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j2sm690334mue.49.2009.04.15.09.16.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 15 Apr 2009 09:16:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49E60842.6000507@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:16:02 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090405) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk References: <991123400904150450p56d24ba5vcd15de8c34096ab0@mail.gmail.com> <49E5E62E.3010906@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Odhiambo Washington , "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: Automounting of USB drives - Why is it a problem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:16:06 -0000 Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Manolis Kiagias > > wrote: > > Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > (I have also written a complete set of steps for this - currently in > Greek only, but I will translate it sooner or later) > > > > Such a write-up really will be very useful , because part in the > FreeBSD Handbook contains errors . > For example : > > mount -t msdosfs -o -m=644 -M=755 /dev/da0s1 /mnt/username > Error -- Invalid switch M You've forgotten the comma between the -o options: mount -t msdosfs -o -m=644,-M=755 /dev/da0s1 /mnt/username The example in the handbook is correct (I remember fixing it myself :) ) > > Also examples for pw contain invalid switches . If you do find problems in the documentation, please tell us exact locations or submit doc-bug reports. > > The paages from man such as man pw are very difficult to use because > they contain many switches and to understand use of those requires > many trials due to combinatorial possible combinations and lack of > ample examples . Well, yes you need to study it carefully. It's easier than it looks at first glance. > > > People accustomed to Windows device management finds Unix device > management really very difficult such as me . To understand and use of > USB sticks in FreeBSD required much time . > Among FreeBSD , Linux , and Windows , hardest to use is FreeBSD with > respect device usage by the user . > > It is not hard, you just have to learn how it works. Windows does a lot of handholding, and so do many of the popular linux distros. FreeBSD does not. You can only accomplish tasks that you understand, but there is lot of stuff to read and is very well organized. OTOH, you may not want to spend so much time if you just need to have an average user's desktop.