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Date:      Wed, 27 Sep 2000 07:34:33 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
To:        dan@langille.org
Cc:        1mazda1@phoenixdsl.com (1mazda1), chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: CD writers - recommendations
Message-ID:  <200009270734.AAA20534@usr05.primenet.com>
In-Reply-To: <200009270707.TAA30714@ducky.nz.freebsd.org> from "Dan Langille" at Sep 27, 2000 07:07:30 PM

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> I've also been told that IDE cd writers under FreeBSD are a problem.  
> What problem, I don't know.  Anyone have any clues?

I have experienced failures of IDE CDROM writers when a system
is under load, since IDE does not support bus detach, and you
have to feed the thing to keep it going.  Without the ability
to detach a disk operation and concurrently start the next
write operation, you can fail.

In a floppy driver or even a normal disk driver, you would
simply reissue the failed operation; on a CDROM writer, by
its nature, this can fail.

I have learned the hard way on several disks (I thought the
first was a fluke) to not load a system in any way, if it is
doing an IDE CDROM burn.

On the flip side of this, they are cheaper, and if you are
willing to dedicate a machine for it, and copy over the CDROM
images before burning them, instead of using NFS to access
them, IDE can work with about a 1 in 14 loss rate (compared
to a 1 in 72 loss rate for the Plextor SCSI I've used).

NB: The numbers on the Plextor are skewed down, since I have
not burnt 144 disks on the thing with a loss of 2, so I don't
know anything other than the statistical failure; on the other
hand, the 1 in 14 number for the IDE I used (don't know the
brand, sorry: it was supposed top of the line) is a valid
statistic over about 50 disks.


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
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