From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 9 13:47:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA07557 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:47:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA07551 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA27935; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:47:09 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:47:09 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199707092047.OAA27935@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Cliff Addy Cc: Nate Williams , isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: T1 upgrade options? In-Reply-To: References: <199707091840.MAA27146@rocky.mt.sri.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > small office (like mine), a dedicated PC works *much* better than a > > CISCO ever would, and total costs (including hardware, maintenance, > > etc..) are significantly lower. > > I don't buy this at all. A Cisco 2501 is only ~$1700 and requires *zero* > maintenance once it's set up. For a typical setup, that takes about 10 > minutes. If you build a machine yourself, using reliable, quality parts, > you're lucky if you save $500 under that. You've *got* to be kidding? I can get really nice 486/33 boxes (way overkill) with a 500MB IDE drive for < $500. > And then you're worrying about > hard drive crashes, config changes, OS security holes, etc. Cicso aren't immune to software problems either. And, read again what I said. W/out those 'critical' services, my CISCO router is useless, and those critical services aren't hostable on a router. I end up buying a CISCO router, plus a machine to do the services, so I still have all the same problems, and nothing to gain but a useless network connection if/when my services box goes down. My router box sees uptimes of 150+ regularly. It was taken down recently with 160 days to install a new multi-port serial card in it since the office is expanding and we needed more modem lines. Previous uptime was 145 days, and it was limited by a power outage. We put it on a UPS and it was up until the card install. Nate