Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:24:00 -0500 From: "Ken Menzel" <kenm@icarz.com> To: "Sebastien ROCHE" <roche1@sxb.bsf.alcatel.fr>, <dan@tsolab.org> Cc: "Joe Gleason" <clash@fireduck.com>, "Matt Heckaman" <matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET>, "B" <brentb@loa.com>, <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: /var drive space problem Message-ID: <039901c07987$06b142c0$711663cf@icarz.com> References: <Pine.BSF.4.31.0101071653420.18503-100000@epsilon.lucida.ca> <002701c078f7$086b9f60$0b2d2d0a@fireduck.com> <014101c0797f$84682880$711663cf@icarz.com> <3A59D273.CB58B4D0@tsolab.org> <3A59D52B.2F4277EC@sxb.bsf.alcatel.fr>
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Hi Sebastion,
/modules should not be that big, but try "du -hx /", my servers =
have 34 Meg in the root filesystem. Make sure you don't have multiple =
copies of the kernel, this is why when I build my roots I make them =
250M it's overkill, but hey I got 72G of space, and 35Gig per tape on =
the backup I don't want to run out of space just because I build a =
couple of kernels to play with! =20
Anyway the du command will show you where the space is used, be careful =
not to delete anything needed to boot! However you can probably clean =
up modules.old and old kernels and any junk in /root (root users home =
directory).
Ken
-----------------------------------------------------
Ken Menzel ICQ# 9325188
www.icarz.com kenm@icarz.com
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Sebastien ROCHE=20
To: dan@tsolab.org=20
Cc: Ken Menzel ; Joe Gleason ; Matt Heckaman ; B ; =
freebsd-stable@freebsd.org=20
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: /var drive space problem
Hi all,=20
About this particular problem (size of /):=20
My / partition is 32 Mb large. I had no problem until yesterday, when =
the make installkernel didn't work due to insufficient space.=20
I think it's /modules which is bigger than it was (and the =
installation process makes a copy of it). Anyway it was difficult to =
have it work. I lost /stand and I put /lkm on /usr and I had to delete =
some binaries in /bin or /sbin that I don't use.=20
Do you have an idea of what else I could put on /usr ? (not /bin =
/sbin /modules /boot /kernel /etc, hmmm there's not much more I think).=20
Thanks for help,=20
Sebastien=20
=20
=20
Daniel Tso wrote:=20
> I Agree, with Joe, but I also want to add I think the root file=20
> systems is also too small. The same type of formula could work. =
As=20
> for me I'll continue to set my favorite values for modern drives: =
250M=20
> root, 2*mem swap, 250M /var, the rest /usr.=20
> 20M is way too small for modern drives, but we can't hard code =
this=20
> as many people stll are using old hardware to do jobs (such as nat =
> boxs and ipfw etc).=20
Why would you want a 250M root ? I always keep root small, usually =
the=20
default 32M or 40M. It limits the possible damage and makes it much=20
easier to restore.=20
/tmp does not belong in root, but has its own partition, which can =
be=20
200M if you have it.=20
The root partition should be as static as possible, IMHO.=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Sebastion,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> /modules should not be that =
big, but=20
try "du -hx /", my servers have 34 Meg in the root =
filesystem. =20
Make sure you don't have multiple copies of the kernel, this is =
why when I=20
build my roots I make them 250M it's overkill, but hey I got 72G of =
space, =20
and 35Gig per tape on the backup I don't want to run out of space just =
because I=20
build a couple of kernels to play with! </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyway the du command will show you =
where the space=20
is used, be careful not to delete anything needed to boot! However =
you can=20
probably clean up modules.old and old kernels and any junk in /root =
(root users=20
home directory).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ken</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>-----------------------------------------------------<BR>Ken =
Menzel =20
ICQ# 9325188<BR><A href=3D"http://www.icarz.com">www.icarz.com</A> =
<A=20
href=3D"mailto:kenm@icarz.com">kenm@icarz.com</A></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Droche1@sxb.bsf.alcatel.fr=20
href=3D"mailto:roche1@sxb.bsf.alcatel.fr">Sebastien ROCHE</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Ddan@tsolab.org=20
href=3D"mailto:dan@tsolab.org">dan@tsolab.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=3Dkenm@icarz.com=20
href=3D"mailto:kenm@icarz.com">Ken Menzel</A> ; <A =
title=3Dclash@fireduck.com=20
href=3D"mailto:clash@fireduck.com">Joe Gleason</A> ; <A =
title=3Dmatt@ARPA.MAIL.NET=20
href=3D"mailto:matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET">Matt Heckaman</A> ; <A =
title=3Dbrentb@loa.com=20
href=3D"mailto:brentb@loa.com">B</A> ; <A =
title=3Dfreebsd-stable@freebsd.org=20
=
href=3D"mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org">freebsd-stable@freebsd.org</A>=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 08, 2001 =
9:56=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: /var drive space=20
problem</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Hi all,=20
<P>About this particular problem (size of /):=20
<P>My / partition is 32 Mb large. I had no problem until yesterday, =
when the=20
<B><I>make installkernel</I></B> didn't work due to insufficient =
space. <BR>I=20
think it's /modules which is bigger than it was (and the installation =
process=20
makes a copy of it). Anyway it was difficult to have it work. I lost =
/stand=20
and I put /lkm on /usr and I had to delete some binaries in /bin or =
/sbin that=20
I don't use.=20
<P>Do you have an idea of what else I could put on /usr ? (not =
/bin=20
/sbin /modules /boot /kernel /etc, hmmm there's not much more I =
think).=20
<P>Thanks for help,=20
<P>Sebastien <BR> <BR> =20
<P>Daniel Tso wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE">> I Agree, with Joe, but I also =
want to add=20
I think the root file <BR>> systems is also too small. The =
same=20
type of formula could work. As <BR>> for me I'll continue =
to set my=20
favorite values for modern drives: 250M <BR>> root, 2*mem =
swap,=20
250M /var, the rest /usr. <BR>> 20M is way too small for =
modern=20
drives, but we can't hard code this <BR>> as many people =
stll are=20
using old hardware to do jobs (such as nat <BR>> boxs and ipfw =
etc).=20
<P>Why would you want a 250M root ? I always keep root small, =
usually the=20
<BR>default 32M or 40M. It limits the possible damage and makes it =
much=20
<BR>easier to restore.=20
<P>/tmp does not belong in root, but has its own partition, which =
can be=20
<BR>200M if you have it.=20
<P>The root partition should be as static as possible, IMHO.=20
<P>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org <BR>with =
"unsubscribe=20
freebsd-stable" in the body of the=20
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